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Ask Hubski: Will Google+ ever take the dominant share of the social media market?

A while back when G+ was new on the social scene, mk made a post titled "Google+ Got Right What Facebook Got Wrong". It's interesting to read it now and get a sense of the expectations that G+ raised in the marketplace. It's also interesting to see how much has changed since then. We are about to witness FB being valued at close to $95 billion.

Is G+ just biding it's time, waiting for the inevitable collapse or do they anticipate a slow transition? Will there be a transition at all or will FB retain market share inevitably? Perhaps a newcomer will usurp them both? What do you think?

Honestly, I can't stand FB but I occasionally visit because people I'm far away from (family and friends) are often there -though I often don't like what I find. I like G+ because it's quiet. I use their "hangouts" to hold meetings and talk with friends. But truthfully, I could do without either. There are millions of people who couldn't though and they've just been ascribed a valuation at close to 100 billion dollars!!

What do you think Hubski? Is FB going to remain the big dog? Are they worth what they are being valued at?



by dublinben 379 days ago  ·  link
I don't want Google+ to have the dominant share of the social media market. Attracting the billion plus users that facebook has gained in the last few years has required changing their service into something I never would have signed up for.

They introduced games to increase the time spent on the site. This only brought endless amounts of spam from in-game promotions.

They introduced the news stream to staunch the flow to Twitter. Now my FB homepage is full of crap about other people I don't care about.

On G+, I don't add every person I've ever met. I follow people I think are interesting. They have no obligation to follow me in return, unlike the forced 'friendships' of facebook.

I've been using social networks less and less over the last five years, and facebook's constant 'upgrades' have only hastened that process.

by mk 379 days ago  ·  link
    I've been using social networks less and less over the last five years, and facebook's constant 'upgrades' have only hastened that process.

Yes, outside of serving as a contacts list, Facebook doesn't really solve a problem I have. I can see Google+ serving as a good feed of interesting stuff, but IMO the information density is a bit too low. I've got to scroll a lot just to see a few items.

by insomniasexx 380 days ago  ·  link
I feel like Google+ could have been awesome. I predicted a mass exodus from facebook -> google+ similar to what we saw with myspace/facebook.

But nope. Something just isn't right.

Now I think google should start laying off products. While I used to love Google, I'm getting scared of all the information I have stored with them. I'm slowly moving away from things like calendar, google+, my contacts, etc. They obviously aren't following their "Do no evil" policy any longer, and I'm not going to wait until it's too late.

by mk 380 days ago  ·  link
Today when I was looking at an email, gmail had a little thumbnail of a picture of me and our new daughter in the upper right. I didn't post it, it isn't my profile picture, and I wasn't looking in an email that had that picture.

It said 'Recent photos'.

After some digging, I found that it was a picture that I sent to my brother some time ago. Why was it popping up in another email? Why do they think I'd like a random assortment of images that I have previously sent to pop up on the right of my screen? WTF is that?

by insomniasexx 380 days ago  ·  link
The creepiest thing was the auto upload feature on phones. I would get notification in my browser "you have new auto uploaded images...click to share."

Scared the absolute fuck out of me the first couple times...especially since the images were NSFW.

by mk 380 days ago  ·  link
Google knows you wanted to upload them. It's what's best, really. :/

Oh, nice... the 'recent photos' includes pics that other people have sent me too. Great, I could just email a bunch of cock pics around to my email list, and everyone can enjoy those little thumbnails for the next few weeks. Why do other people get to choose what pictures I see when I am using my email?

by insomniasexx 380 days ago  ·  link
    Great, I could just email a bunch of cock pics...

Make sure you start with me

by mk 379 days ago  ·  link
er... ok, poor example.
by thenewgreen 379 days ago  ·  link
HA HA HA. Please take me off your distribution list.
by dublinben 379 days ago  ·  link
That's an optional feature that doesn't even publish the pictures until you choose to. You don't have to criticize Google based on lies.
by insomniasexx 379 days ago  ·  link
I think you need to learn how to read. It scared me because I saw the image in google+ notification window. Take a chill pill, fan boy.
by dublinben 379 days ago  ·  link
That's pretty uncalled for.
by insomniasexx 379 days ago  ·  link
You called me a liar and put words in my mouth. Was that called for?
by thenewgreen 379 days ago  ·  link
At this point the "Do no Evil" slogan seems like a joke, doesn't it?
by mk 380 days ago  ·  link
Ha. Ok, I was wrong.

I now feel that the differences between Google+ and Facebook probably can not be great enough to cause users to leave Facebook for Google+ This holds particularly true for older folk on Facebook.

Also, I don't have the feeling that one suffices for the other. Which is kind of funny. If Google+ is too different, then it won't feel like an alternate to Facebook. If it is too similar, then why switch?

I'm sure Google+ will be around for a long time, however. In fact, I think it will just become part of the Google Account. Some will use it, and some won't.

I like hang-outs. But I actually don't use my circles.

Arrgh, Google+ can mess with the Hubski bold markup.

by eb 379 days ago  ·  link
:) I too thought G+ was going to be bigger than Facebook. The main difference is that the friends I have on facebook are not in G+ (but i thought that, that was the point, if I wanted the same friends I would still use Facebook). My G+ stream is full of links, discussions and funny things though, I use circles, one is from the Hacker News community (the main theme are investing and startup articles...) the other is the reddit one (funny gifs, interesting articles... cats...) etc.
by thenewgreen 380 days ago  ·  link
Ha, I wasn't trying to hold you to account. I think we were both of the opinion that G+ had an advantage in that it more realistically mirrored actual human interaction. Shows what we know. I too like the hangouts, I think they function really well and are easy to use. For me, it feels pretty different than FB. But you make an interesting point: Too different -they won't go. Too similar -why leave? -Well said.
by yotta 379 days ago  ·  link
I think that no matter how good it is, Google+ will not gain dominance until enough people are dissatisfied with Facebook. Whether or not that will happen anytime soon is still up in the air as far as I am concerned.

Facebook has a much broader audience than Myspace did, and many of its users aren't very tech-savvy, which could also impede a "great migration". As more people use social networks, the percentage of users who are slow to change goes up. Perhaps we will consequently see a splintering across social networks as user migrate gradually.

by thenewgreen 379 days ago  ·  link
I could see FB being a place that people go to to connect to everyone and then people also having a "niche" social network that they belong to like Pinterest etc.
by winston 379 days ago  ·  link
I do not use either. I have had a number of friends and family members request me to join FB, but never G+.


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