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cW  ·  4673 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Letters to a Young Mixologist  ·  
forwardslash, your catch 22 is a tough one. if i hadn't been introduced to delicious cocktails by friends, i doubt i'd ever have tested the waters, let alone gotten far. there is a way forward though, and it's a good deal easier to find on account of all the ongoing cocktail hoopla.

in case it helps, i'd like to weigh in on your dilemma: pay for overpriced cocktails at the bar. i know the dollar per ounce economy screams against it, but the value of know-how is triply important here. early on in my own backward self-education, i sat down with a friend who knew nearly as little as i did, and we tasted our way through ten or twelve different important spirits. we had no idea what we were doing, and as a result, everything tasted awful. i'd guess it took me the better part of a decade to undo the stigmas formed in that ill-advised tasting.

despite surface appearances, bar economics work in your favor, at least when you're finding your footing. sure, you'll pay anywhere from 2 to 8 times the amount per ounce for liquids consumed, but you won't need to buy a full bar's worth of high quality ingredients, which is in fact what it takes to ensure a pleasant first trip on the cocktail trolley.

what will be your first drink of choice, the first one that really makes you say, “aha! so this is what everyone’s going on about!” it’s hard to say, really. it could be a vodka tonic. or it could be a sazerac, a mai-tai, or a top-shelf margarita. take yourself out to a properly-stocked bar, and you’ll have all of these options at your disposal. once you know what you like, you’ll have a much shorter list of ingredients to collect in order to assemble a personally tailored home bar. in the long run, you’ll save loads of money not buying costly bottles you’ll never use.

the important thing, right off the bat, is to make sure you end up at the right kind of bar. what’s the right kind of bar? well, it’s a place that carries a wide variety of high-quality spirits, of course. again, i know this generally means higher cost. but if that cost is justified by quality ingredients and know-how, each additional dollar is likely to return value at an exponential rate.

more importantly, the right kind of bar is the one sporting good staff. any bartender who knows his/her craft should be able to mix a good drink, but that goes without saying. more importantly, a bartender should be able to talk you through your options, and should be eager to do so. i, for one, have always enjoyed consulting guests that haven’t gotten to try much. the potential to delight in this situation is really grand. i start by asking what types of food they like. what flavors do they enjoy, and what sensations would they rather avoid? within the span of a 10 second interview, i generally know exactly where to start them out.

so, if you find yourself in a deafening mob of thirsty clubbers, struggling to flag down a sneering barstaff of too-cool-for-school twenty-somethings who can barely hear you and don’t seem to care, it’s probably best to shove off and head down the way. you should be getting value for your business, and part of that value is professional advice.

as a general rule, don’t trust bars that use pre-made mixes or bottled citrus juice. if they tell you their whiskey sour contains whiskey and sour mix, the door will probably turn out to be your best friend in the room.

the ready availability of fine establishments will depend entirely on where you live, and what center of urban culture is nearest to you. the booming cocktail renaissance is working in your favor though, and decent watering holes are beginning to crop up in the tiniest of towns, in the unlikeliest of places. anyone who tries to tell you “you just can’t get a good cocktail outside of NYC or san francisco,” is just flashing their “i’m pretentious, ask me how” badge, right along side of their “i have no idea what i’m talking about” badge.

if you’re bent on sussing it all out on your own, the best way to proceed is to decide which base spirit to tackle first. to keep it simple, i’d limit the crowd to vodka, gin, tequila, rum, and whiskey. each of these base spirits offers an entire family of wonderful libations to be explored, but you may want to audition them in these drinks (ordered according to base spirit): vodka tonic/vodka gimlet, gin and tonic/gin gimlet, margarita, mojito/daiquiri (the classic recipe, that is -- watch out for frozen smoothy versions, which have very little to do with the original), whiskey sour/manhattan. these are some very basic drinks, and i’ve chosen them just because they each showcase the qualities of their base spirit. once you’ve picked a favorite starting point, the world will be yours to explore.

looking for a quick and easy recipe guide? i’ve always been impressed by the intuitive arrangement and thorough scope of the internet cocktail database ( http://cocktaildb.com/ ) they may not have all the hip, new-fangled, and elaborate recipes and techniques you’ll find employed in the most cutting edge cocktail labs and retro-speakeasies of the day, but you won’t be wanting to use liquid nitrogen right off the bat anyhow, i’m guessing -- and they’ve got the basics well covered. their approach is straightforward and their recipes are clear. also, you can search for recipes by base spirit as well as by name.

sorry for the long reply, but i hope some of this helps. and thanks for throwing in on this one!





forwardslash  ·  4672 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I don't know what else to say other than thank you so much for the thorough reply! If I had a badge to give I would give it without hesitation.

My girlfriend and I are both not fans of the club or bar scenes (we vastly prefer nights in or with small company), but I'm sure we could find something fitting a bit closer to Vancouver. I've always been a fan of gin in particular, and my girlfriend loves Bailey's so I guess we should start from there.

cW  ·  4671 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Okay, perfect. If gin works for you as a primary color, you'll have no shortage of fascinating cocktails to explore. I'll list three of my favorite discoveries in case you feel a mad-scientist urge coming on. They are, in order of least # of expensive ingredients to most, the bees knees, the white spider #2 (first served to me by thenewgreen, incidentally), and the aviation.

a few links: http://notwithoutsalt.com/2011/06/26/bees-knees/ http://www.voxmagazine.com/blog/2011/06/drink-this-the-aviat...

All the links I could find for the white spider #2 called for sour mix, which is appalling, and no egg white, which is tragic. So here's the recipe as thenewgreen transcribed it for me:

1oz gin .5oz cointreau 1oz lemon j .25 simple syrup 1 egg white

(Combine in shaker with ice, shake vigorously, strain into a chilled cocktail glass)

I perfectly well understand club aversion. I suppose some might call me outdated, or just prematurely cermudgeonly, but I've always preferred the conversation of my companions to the deafening cacophony of the jukebox and all the other barflies bellowing to be heard over it. Still, there are a few spots here and there where good cocktails coexist with serene atmosphere. The bars of really good restaurants sometimes offer this. (And by good, I mean imaginative, rather than just posh and expensive -- the latter type often skate by on name brands and perceived opulence rather than relying on any real innovation).

Assembling a repertoire of drinks to sling in the comfort of your home is a time consuming process, no doubt about it. But if you do, you'll have even less reason to suffer the club, and all of your friends will love you for it. Best of luck!

p.s. I was thinking of including some of our exchange in an upcoming blog post, but will only include text from you by your own permission. Would you like your comment posted? No pressure, either way.

forwardslash  ·  4670 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I'd be totally fine if you used any of my comments in your blog. Thank you again for the help, the drinks look delicious!
cW  ·  4669 days ago  ·  link  ·  
My pleasure! And thanks for permission. How may I cite you? I can attribute quotes to "forwardslash, of hubski," "a mysterious stranger," "a distinguished gentleman," or whatever else you prefer. Cheers!
forwardslash  ·  4669 days ago  ·  link  ·  
"forwardslash, of hubski" is alright with me.
thenewgreen  ·  4669 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks cW for the nod regarding the White Spider. One thing I would point out in regards to preparation is that you should do a dry mix first (without the ice) to ensure a good "froth" from the egg white. I actually think you taught me that cW. After you shake all the ingredients (30 shakes or so) add some ice and repeat. I usually double the ingredients and pour myself a tall one :)

Enjoy, it's one of my favorites.

P.S. Tonight I'm making Corpse Reviver #2's. -Another favorite.

cW  ·  4668 days ago  ·  link  ·  
oh, good call. also, i should learn how to do a proper shout-out, as my citation would have been a perfect usage for such. so many tech tools, so little time. i couldn't agree more, the ice-free shake is really key for achieving the proper frappe quality. happy shakin, friend.
thenewgreen  ·  4668 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Thanks, the shakin was indeed "happy". I made this fella: http://i.imgur.com/NY63e.jpg Which is essentially a corpse reviver except that I didn't have any absinthe left (forgot that I drank it all) and so in order to add some dimension, I used muddled blueberries. -It was good but really all the blueberries added was color.

I really loved the St. George's absinthe I was using. Any recommendations otherwise?

mk  ·  4668 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Sounds like some sort of futuristic clan name. :)
cW  ·  4668 days ago  ·  link  ·  
i would sooo join! wait ... are their rituals? dues? i should probably do some research first...
thenewgreen  ·  4672 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Badged for you!
forwardslash  ·  4671 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Awesome, thanks!