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Greatest athlete of all time? If not, who is?

by thisisme · #sports
posted 468 days ago · shared by: 4




by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
I am going to have agree with you here. Bo Vincent Jackson was a freak!! He was on monster on the baseball diamonds and a beast on the football field. Too bad his career ended so prematurely with that injury.
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
I remember all of the "Bo-Knows" commercials. He was a huge star. It's funny that he isn't remembered as being as big a star as he was. He was all over the place in his prime. Great athlete.
by notseamus 468 days ago  ·  link
there are longer collections with scoring on them on youtube, but this wee video of Brian O Driscoll shows why he's my favourite rugby player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvnexjWJYg
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
Watched the clip and didn't notice what he had done until the slow motion replay. Pretty sweet!
by notseamus 468 days ago  ·  link
two more great moves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOniv9rWWf8&feature=relat...

in this one he was dumped in a tackle and is down hurt, watch him on the ground in the bottom half of the frame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...

by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
Clearly this guy rules. What a tackle and what a behind the back pass.
by thisisme 468 days ago  ·  link
So no Jordan fans?
by eb 468 days ago  ·  link
We are all Jordan fans... :)
by thisisme 468 days ago  ·  link
:)
by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
My two cents worth from the major sports:

1. Football - Bo Vincent Jackson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgYYaL--1qc)

2. Basketball - Kobe Bryant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR_OazshgG8)

3. Baseball - Ken Griffey Jr. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FS8UxXiaPw)

4. Hockey - Wayne Gretzky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTliAjNiS7A)

5. Boxing - Mike Tyson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHnL7wqtQLs)

by notseamus 468 days ago  ·  link
I think Messi is/will be soon better than Pele. He's playing in a time where so much more is demanded and standards are higher, and Pele keeps calling him out too, so he's obviously worried about Messi.
by ecib 468 days ago  ·  link
Unfortunately, I don't watch enough soccer. The US is terrible about broadcasting matches save every 4 years during the World Cup. Messi is great, though I have to say, with a lot more footage to draw from, Messi's 'best of' clips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnUr8lcqjo aren't as inspiring as Pele's imho ;)
by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
Most football players do not even consider their kickers athletes. :)
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
Great highlight real ecib. My grandpa played soccer for the Army prior to the Korean war. He always talked of Pele with great reverence, it's easy to see why.
by ecib 468 days ago  ·  link
The best of his highlights don't even involve him scoring imho.
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
There must be some amazing athletes from history that unfortunately, we will never get to see. The men that braved the coliseum, the earlier baseball players whose names we vaguely recognize but can't associate with any theatrical highlight reels. Oh to have a sports center top 10 plays prior to television. That'd probably be pretty kick ass.

Graglack throwing a rock further than margdel at #3.

by cgod 467 days ago  ·  link
Just guessing in that you have suggested Mike Tyson as great that you don't really follow boxing. Boxing is a sport obbsed with list making, pound for pound, divisional (wieght class), all time (weight class and over all). There are boxing books that are nothing but lists (greatest fighter, in weight class, greatest fight in weight class, greatest fight, any of these subdivisions in a particular time frame or weight class, greatest knock out, greatest decision, greatest Jew, Irish, Italiano, Mexican, Cuban ect.

Mike Tyson doesn't make some list makers top heavy weights of all time list. When Tyson does make the list it's because he popularized boxing in the time he was active. He is much like the Klitchko bothers are today, dominate, but not "great". Tyson would probably have been crippled by Ali, Fraser and 8-9 other guys who stood out as great heavy weights in their time.

You want to see greatness look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84ZxM1txLA That being said, Tyson was an terrible force to be reckoned with in his day, but as far are skill goes couldn't be compared to Mayweather or Pacio today.

by lessismore 467 days ago  ·  link
You're right. I don't really follow boxing. I stated as much in another post (http://hubski.com/pub?id=16795). I was fortunate enough to have seen Ali in person a few years back in Los Angeles for a Microsoft function. He was not having a very good night that night and didn't really speak. All he did was raise his arms, but the whole place still went nuts. What a presence.
by caio 468 days ago  ·  link
I know zilt about boxing, but Tyson over Ali? Why?
by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
I placed Tyson ahead of Ali based on his complete dominance of his opponents. Tyson destroyed his foes. Ali was certainly a much better boxer than Tyson.
by caio 468 days ago  ·  link
Last year, I watched The Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_fighter). On reading about it, I found out there was boxing before and after Ali. If I'm not mistaken, Ali brought technique to boxing, whereas before him, the sport consisted mostly of brawlers beating each other up. Is that true? And if so, was Tyson a "brawler"?
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
I believe cgod is a big boxing fan. Any thoughts on what Ali brought to the sport and the differences between Tyson and Ali?
by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
Truth be told, I am not exactly a student of the sweet science. I would definitely put Tyson on the brawler crowd. He also packs a pretty mean bite too. Just ask Evander Holyfield.
by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
I'd give the baseball nod to Pujols. But obviously just for the hitting; there's no comparison between center field and first base.
by scrimetime 468 days ago  ·  link
Hmmm. Ted Williams? Bobby Orr? Jim Brown? Bill Russell? Tough call......
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
Ted Williams, Jim Brown.. I could get on board with that. Not sure about Russell. Orr's a tough call only because Lindstrom exists.

You only threw in Jim Brown to not seemed overtly Boston biased.

by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
We'll give him Orr. It cannot be easy this week for Boston fans. Heck, I was pretty depressed after the 49'ers gave away the game to the eventual World Champion New York Giants.
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
Too soon.
by scrimetime 468 days ago  ·  link
Excuse me? Orr is a tough call? Over Lidstrom? HA!
by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
Depends how you look at great. Orr was the most talented hockey player in history, better than 99, IMO. But his career only lasted 10 years. Lidstrom will be 42 in April and has been doing it since he was 21...and he's still a top 10 defenceman in the NHL.
by eb 468 days ago  ·  link
I agree with thenewgreen!

My favorite is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpJna4-OAJ0

Ah the memories. :)

by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
First off, thanks for the mid-day Sweet Child O' Mine fix. -Awesome.

Secondly, that bicycle kick is sweet! Great video.

by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
I'm not sure anyone can claim who is and isn't the greatest. I can say who my favorite athlete of all time is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoNqiiY6Lg

Still gives me chills.

by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
scrimetime, get in on this. What's your all time all-star line?
by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
You can't watch that without getting a chill. That video is so awesome. Gretzky with the giveaway, Yzerman scoring, then flash to MacTavish on the bench, no helmet, looking like someone just raped his grandma. That was one of the best moments in Wings history, followed by the worst a week or two later.

Still, my favorite athlete award goes to #5.

by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
God.. don't make me choose. Nicks great. Such a class act and perhaps one of the most underrated players ever. If you were to put together your all star line, I don't care who you are or where you are from you'd have to admit that Lindstrom would likely be one of the two in the back. Who else? Bobby Orr was before my time. Maybe Bourque, Coffey or Chelios?
by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
Orr, beyond a shadow. He won the Art Ross trophy twice. Coffey never played a lick of defense. Bourque and Chelios were both awesome, but to me, Orr and Lidstrom are hands down the two greatest hockey has ever seen.
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
I would only consider Coffey because Lindstrom is good enough to have his back while he basically acts like a forward.

Alright, while we are at it name your centers and wingers on your dream line.

by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
My dream line (not necessarily who I think is the best of all time) would be Datsyuk in the middle with Bossy on the right and Hull (Bobby, that is) on the left.
by thenewgreen 468 days ago  ·  link
My dream line based purely on wanting to watch them all play together: Yzerman, Datsyuk and Federov up front-Mix them up as you see fit. Lindstrom and Konstantinov on "D". Those 3 up front are some of the best 2 way players that have ever worn red for Detroit.

Love this Konstantinov quote: "For my game," he explained, "I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Awesome.

by b_b 468 days ago  ·  link
Actually, I agree with you basically 100%. For argument's sake, I didn't want to use all Wings.
by lessismore 468 days ago  ·  link
Darn it. I have to give a shout out to Shu-How http://www.jeremylin.net/ !! Yeah. I know he is not even close to being the 10,000th best athlete ever, but he is giving the Chinese American (we can debate about it being Taiwanese and Chinese) community something to shout about.

My friend and I were talking about his play and he joked that David Stern mandated that the other players take it easy on him so that he can look good to improve engagement (yes he used that word) with the Chinese fans.



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