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lelandbatey  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A fair warning for all Hubsters

Well, I think you misunderstand how Hubski works. You don't follow topics, you follow people. It's white list based, with extra blacklist filtering. So, it's quite easy to filter out what you don't want to hear.

With Hubski, you build your own echo chamber. It means it's hard for new things to come in, and that's great for combating eternal September. However, there are plenty of other problems that follow it.

One problem that Hubski will face is keeping up discoverability.





PresidentObama  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ignoring for the moment your hateful shit-flinging tirade, I'd like to offer a considered response to an important point you bring up, and to show how it makes my point.

You mention that people cling to religion to help them feel safe, and you seem angry that I consider them crazy. Well, you're very right about the "feeling safe" part! An interesting study shows that Americans are unusually religious because they face unusual levels of personal insecurity, compared with other developed countries. Another study shows that people become more religious when their faith in their government decreases.

But now let's look at consequences! In 2004, GWBush narrowly won the election on a religious issue: his stance against gay marriage brought him a decisive number of otherwise undecided votes. Bush ended up sending more Americans into their death in the Iraq War than were killed in 9/11. America became more hated worldwide than ever, terrorist attacks were stepped up. Political commentators agree that Bush's crazy foreign policy has made the whole world less safe.

And this is why I feel justified in calling religious people crazy: the stupid shit they often do frequently turns out to counter their own best interests! If you want another example, look at sex education and contraception: the Christian-Right policies on these topics actually lead to an increase in STD infection, teen pregnancy and abortion rates. Policies Bush vigorously supported with tax money, by the way.

You'd consider a person crazy if he continually hurt himself by, say, pounding his head against a wall. I consider Christians crazy for exactly the same reason. Elsewhere, rational people find solutions that help them with their problems.

And it wasn't just a few extremist Christian nutjobs who voted for Bush or for Prop 8 or other crazy shit. It was majorities of Christians, of the kind you're telling me are good and normal and unlike anybody I know. Being moderate is no protection against being wrong, sometimes tragically so; and this is why I oppose all of Christianity and not just the few whom everybody considers crazy.

RonPaul  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·  

NaggerFiggot  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I concur.

creepig  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Discoverability is a major problem with that setup then. Half of the fun of reddit has always been learning of new places and new subreddits, and if you're only watching what you follow, you can't do that.

Mostly, I'm just amused by the hubriski (if that's not a word, I'm making it one) of thinking that you've solved Eternal September. If you don't know me from reddit, I was a mod of subredditdrama for a long time. I love to watch chaos, and it always comes. It comes fastest to the places arrogant enough to think they're immune to it.

lelandbatey  ·  4115 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, discoverability does affect Hubski quite a lot. However once you have your echo chamber built, it's lovely!

I don't think eternal september won't come. However, I believe that I have the tools to sufficiently ignore it. I think a big influx of users on Hubski would play out similarly to a disaster movie: everything may be horrible, but as long as we have each other, we'll all be ok! :)

On a more serious note: eternal september is how the world works. I have no problem with that, and I totally accept that on the whole it cannot be avoided. Everything that involves groups of people is in constant flux. However, despite eternal september surrounding us, permeating every facet of human life (constant change) we carve out stability. We don't descend into chaos. We take the control that we have over our life and we leverage that to get what we want.

Hubski is the realization of that individual control in the context of online discussion.

Also, hubski isn't some answer to Reddit. It's different, but not "better". Just like Twitter and Facebook are different from Reddit.

I just want to talk to interesting people and have conversations I'll enjoy!