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Quatrarius  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What is a Woman, Anyway?  ·  x 2

"If so, then why does a person assigned at birth as a male but who identifies as a female need to remove the penis? Why does a person assigned at birth as a female but who identifies as a male need to add a penis? If a “woman” or a “man” is whatever anyone claims as their identity based on internal beliefs and feelings instead of external equipment—as one online influencer told Walsh, “Some people are boys, some people are girls, some are both, some are neither. Gender is all about how you feel on the inside and how you express yourself.”—then why would anyone put themselves through the ordeal of transitioning?"

what a lack of understanding of the motivations behind transitioning, of the concept of dysphoria / struggling with the stark contrast between self-perception and appearances / the way you're treated. why would a skinny teen with dreams of becoming a bodybuilder ever want to exercise and build muscle? why would a married woman who wants to have an affair take off her wedding ring at a bar? this is the crucial misunderstanding that so many people fail to even realize they're making - to be a woman is to be treated like a woman, to be a man is to be treated like a man. we define what it is to be a particular gender through our behavior and our expectations, not through some collection of meat. why is a graceful ship on the water called she? why is a deeply pitched computer generated voice perceived as a man's? because we associate these characteristics to them. why is a mother-in-law a go-to person that comedians joke about not wanting to talk to? all it is is the mother of your spouse, there's nothing inherently bad about that, right?

the entire trans "debate" relies on the confusion between what is real and what is bestowed on real things by our behavior. sure, you can say that a woman is a vaginahaver and a man is a penishaver - but are you gonna say to little David "hold on, sport, let's see your cock before you can go play with the boys"? no - you hear the name, you see the clothes, you perceive all the things that we associate with the category "boy", and you let him play and live his life

but not for long! if these trannytrackers win the """"debate"""", soon we will all be reduced to meat

Quatrarius  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

how reductive. how contrary to human experience. a man produces sperm, a woman produces eggs - so a eunuch is no longer a man? is a woman not a woman after menopause? a man has a penis, a woman has a vagina - so what about one of the people who are born with ambiguous genitalia, bodies with characteristics of "both" sexes? it's idiotic, and no scientist will tell you that sex and gender are the same thing. it's not wokeness gone wrong, it's not an abandonment of objective truth, as michael here hysterically says - it is objective truth.

Quatrarius  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

fascinating how the head of skeptic magazine takes a fucking Daily Wire commentator at his word when he says he's just asking questions, and yet assumes that the people he tricked into his film are all squirming around because deep in their heart of hearts, they secretly agree, but can't admit it because of the woke mob.

i hope you're happy, cocksucker, because they're coming for atheists next, you credulous fool

am_Unition  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How much of this is "I am obsessed with figuring out the status and history your genitalia, and I'm gonna punish you for it"? Because that seriously seems like 99% of it.

The Walshes and Crowders and Shapiros and Petersons leading this movement must do it out of some combination of fear and fundie bigotry, and I guess some queer-curiousness or something. I dunno how, but the well runs disgustingly deep.

Can't they just fuck off and treat all people with respect? No, they cannot. How's that for a choice? Choosing not to be a hateful asshat?

Watching this all ratchet up again lately is fucking sickening, and the amount of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation pouring out of this culture warfare is already causing serious problems in some states.

Besides laughing at and shaming (if possible) these people, voting, etc., what can we do? Attend community events to show support and ward off any disruptors?