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comment by kleinbl00

It is classical Vichy Democrat thinking to go "I mean yeah the ends justify the means but we should 100% get rid of anyone who accomplished our ends if we disagree with their means because THIS IS AMERICA."

That's Al Haig, blatantly disregarding the 25th Amendment after Reagan was shot and serving in office for another two years before suggesting we nuke Europe for shits and giggles finally pissed off Caspar Weinberger enough to put him out to pasture.

The two most dominant planks in the Republican Party platform are:

(1) Trump won the election

(2) Vaccines are bad.

Anybody who disagrees with one or both of those should be negotiated with, at least.

You know how coups happen? Enough people go "yeah there are rules, but fuck the rules" or enough people go "yeah, we're utterly fucked, but there are rules." Dollars to donuts, Milley likely would have led a counter-coup if Pence had decided he had the authority to stop the election.

And everyone reading this would be happy about that.





b_b  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    (1) Trump won the election

    (2) Vaccines are bad.

I have a lot of republicans in my family. They're of the rich white asshole variety, not the poor white trash variety. None of them likes to talk about it, but they're all vaccinated. It's easy to be a prick on Facebook, but it's a lot harder to put your money where your mouth is.

kleinbl00  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

True or false: If Joe Manchin flipped Republican, they'd vote for him in the primaries before they'd vote for Ron DeSantis.

b_b  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Probably false. Trump is the candidate they were waiting for their whole lives. Growing up, hearing the n-word was a very regular occurrence at family gatherings. They like money the best and white people the second best. So I think DeSantis fits that mold better. They would vote for either over any democrat under any circumstances, even if the republican was a child molester who had a stroke and can no longer perform any normal daily functions.

kleinbl00  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Right. They'll salivate no matter who rings the bell.

Mark Milley protects the country from your in-laws. Throwing him out is a bonehead "must not anger the silent majority" bullshit play that the 'boomers are trying to get their children to repeat.

There's this persistent myth among chin-stroking democrats that if they squint just right the 'wingers will see reason and the lie is that they ever did.

b_b  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What you find when you grow up in a family like mine is that there's what you do in public and there's what you do in private and the two don't have to align at all. We're Church of England types, and you could be moved to tears by some of their words in church...Then you go on a golf trip or whatever and there are more booze and whores than you can shake a stick at. Piety and charity is an act but it's an important one for the club to see that you're not one of those people, however defined.

kleinbl00  ·  34 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Your family is neither unique nor opaque.

Both sides of my family have supported the Democrats for generations primarily because Republicans value hypocrisy.