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    After their study was published in 1998, tourists located the stone circle by plucking the latitude and longitude from the research paper. Soon, visitors were defacing the megaliths and standing up nearby stones that changed the site’s alignment.

    “They ended up messing up the area, which had been pristine for 5,000 years,” Malville says.

Fuck people! But great article - it's funny how reading it reminded me of the one I posted about the Polynesians recently, and then they mention them a few paragraphs later.

    There was no north star at the time, so the people navigated using bright stars and the circular motion of the heavens.

This was news to me, I had to google that because the thought of "important" stars changing significantly seemed so unlikely to me, in the small scale we have experienced humanity. Looks like something changed in earth's alignment so that the North Star now appears brighter?





Devac  ·  1396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Looks like something changed in earth's alignment so that the North Star now appears brighter?

It's axial precession. Currently we're on Polaris, 5000 years ago it was Thuban.

The time to make a 'full circle' is 25772 years, or 1 degree every 72 years.

Dala  ·  1395 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I knew that the North Star changes, but I never really thought about there not being one. So now I am curious to know if this would have been a time when there was just no good candidate for North Star or was this prior to the adoption of concept?

Devac  ·  1395 days ago  ·  link  ·  

From what I recall, Phoenicians (whose capital fell in 332 BC and their civilisation stretched back to 2500 BC) navigating Mediterranean and Atlantic used the sun, Polaris (yes, our North Star), and the entire Ursa Minor (Little Dipper) constellation in conjunction with landmarks to navigate both at night and during the day. I added the dates to give a reference to the circle in my above post: Polaris wasn't exactly their North Star, but it was both visible and, mostly, good enough.

During the last night-time orientation run, between thick forest and cloudy weather, couldn't even see the moon most of the time. I used the memory of "where the dirt has more calcite stones" or "how this mountain's silhouette would look if I was at <place I knew like the back of my hand>" or even "the air is very moist, I'm walking windward". You don't need exact reference points, just orientate well enough to get the gist where you are and which direction roughly points to your destination. Anything will do. North Star is convenient, but isn't much on its own.