This is such a dude argument. Abortion isn't new, nor are the laws around it, nor has there been any shortage of laws passed in order to figure out when men are allowed to be mad at women for taking charge of their bodies and futures. Historically these laws have taken the form of livestock value for induced miscarriage (example: Exodus 21 because show me a pregnant woman and I'll show you a dude who thinks its his right to tell her what the fuck to do. Here's the thing. Take it from a guy who ended up owning and running a women's healthcare clinic, pregnancy is a pain in the ass and the longer you wait, the more of a pain in the ass it is. If you didn't want an abortion during the first trimester but you suddenly do during the third? Shit has gone horribly horribly wrong and you are living a tragedy. By the time you cross the third trimester you're better off taking the fetus to term anyway because babies fucking die. You don't take care of the kid and it's no longer a problem. Call it crib death, call it failure to thrive, call it whatever you want there are no shortage of ways you can take an unwanted baby and turn it into an unfortunate early passing even if you don't intend to, it's not like you need to put the kid in a basket and float it down to pharoah or some shit. We did this whole roundyround with "partial birth abortions" back in the '90s AND NO ONE EVER FUCKING HAD ONE. Not a single person on either side of the argument could come up with more than one or two case studies where partial birth abortions were even performed. It's just not the way you handle obstetrical emergencies, nor is it how anyone - ANYONE - wants to handle an unwanted pregnancy. It's like "well, I figured I could have just poisoned my husband but instead I forged a terabyte of documents to convince the CIA he was the head of ISIS so they would call a drone strike on my house while I was in Vegas with the girls." It's the most ornate, involved, expensive possible way to terminate a pregnancy and the only reason anybody even talks about it is so that a bunch of men can jump around angry at each other over some hypothetical woman somewhere in the background of the argument that nobody really cares about. Every law you make? Is going to be used to hit someone over the head. In the case of abortion laws, they will be used to punish the poor, the minorities and the disadvantaged. Nobody - NOBODY - needs to sit around legislating "well this is a fetus and that's a baby because POP at the magic 34 week 2 day 9 hour 7 minute 32 second mark WE GET TO REGISTER THEM TO VOTE!" because fucking hell, abortion rates have been plummeting anyway ever since a couple-three pills can be popped and all this posturing accomplishes is making it harder for my employees to help postpartum women with boggy uteruses and partially retained placental fragments. Fuckin' let it go. If someone floated a constitutional amendment requiring the possession of a uterus in order to vote on issues pertaining to uteruses? I'd fuckin' LOBBY for that shit.Abortion has to be illegal at some point, because otherwise you could abort a fetus up to the moment of delivery.
Come at me, bro. The "partial-birth" bullshit was bullshit, and yet both sides recruited their brightest and best to argue it all the way to the Supreme Court who, for lack of a better term, split the baby. It was and remains dumb. I guess what I'd like to see is just some grand compromise so that we can move the fuck on from this worst of wedge issues that often boils down to arguments over angels on the head of a pin, except when it doesn't and then it's pretty important. I don't know, though. Slow day on Hubski, so why not argue something?This is such a dude argument.
LOL The best argument I've ever heard, pro or con, about abortion is that nobody got to legislate it. it went to the supreme court and pop it couldn't be legislated anymore, for or against. That was maybe thirty years ago, well before Turdblossom decided to put family values bills on everyone's ballot in 2004, before Gavin Newsom decided to say "double eagles bitchez we're marrying gays" and before pretty much the entire country went "you know, I'm not enough of a bigot to give my support to a law denying gay people human rights." This article has a fuckin' coloring book in the margin to illustrate the vigor and vim with which legislatures will approach the problem even when they aren't allowed to make it illegal. It is my firmly considered opinion that a house'n'senate passed, presidentially-signed sentence that said "healthcare decisions related to pregnancy are the purvey of women and the physicians supervising their care" would club this entire fucking issue in the head never to rise again.
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with. The extent to which the world doesn't suck because of weighty compromises struck by American liberals and conservatives in the postwar years is lost on people like you and the Trumpers. The world is way worse when a single point of view dominates.