Thanks Mike!
They definitely are. Conservatives and authoritarians don't care much about any sort of objectively verifiable reality, and this is plainly evident when looking at eg. the "war" on drugs, their stance on sex education (or education in general), their stance on crime (i.e. harsher punishments, which has been shown to not work at all), and so on and so on. Conservatism/authoritarianism in general appeals to people who can't deal with any sort of complexity, and this has been fairly comprehensively proven. The current situation is complex enough that they'd rather pretend it's all the Other's faultYou may be right, but I think Trump (and especially Pence) are gambling on public perception and media coverage
Can you hazard a more specific prediction? The article — no paywall from the horse's mouth — makes no predictions, but suggests that things are under control. When I imagine what a second wave would look like, it would be the original growth in case numbers, then a decline, followed by renewed growth. When I Google "us cases" the first hit looks like a steady rate or slight decline. I question the reliability of the numbers, but that's the evidence we have and I don't see a second wave today. What about the claims about media, that "talk of an increase in cases dominates cable news coverage"? I search Google News for "us cases" while not logged in to Google. KOB Navajo Nation resumes weekend lockdowns as Arizona virus cases rise FOX 10 News Phoenix Navajo Nation resumes weekend lockdowns as Arizona coronavirus cases rise CBS News China races to contain a second wave of coronavirus cases in Beijing NPR Texas Governor Says 'No Reason Today To Be Alarmed' As Coronavirus Cases Set Record LancasterOnline Here are the 10 Pennsylvania counties with the highest rates of new coronavirus cases over the past 2 weeks morethanthecurve.com Just 18 new cases of Coronavirus reported on June 16th CBS News 6 states report record-high jumps in coronavirus cases as reopening plans weighed New York Post Texas sees record number of coronavirus cases, hospitalizations Washington Post Live updates: Nine states hit record highs for covid-19 cases as Pence calls fear of a second wave ‘overblown’ CNBC Record spike in new coronavirus cases reported in six U.S. states as reopening accelerates WAVY.com Virginia June 16 COVID-19 update: 445 new cases, 18 new deaths reported; Testing numbers continue to stagnate About ten of those look like alarming stories of high rates. It is no more surprising that hyperlinked headlines will describe "record-high jumps" than it is that the VP would brag about keeping things under control.
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COVID19 is spreading, but distancing rules were/are being relaxed. There will be (is?) a second wave, and it will be worse than the first. Political points of view don't factor into that. I didn't see it 8 days ago either, but based on the numbers and behavior, it was easy to predict.I question the reliability of the numbers, but that's the evidence we have and I don't see a second wave today.
Nothing about this seems easy to predict to me; I am constantly perplexed. The CDC cases per day metric looks much worse than it did 12 days ago, just what I would think of a a second wave. But of course "cases" means diagnosed and reported cases, and that number depends on factors unrelated to health. Mortality seems like a more reliable indicator, "lagging" though it may be. By this measure the CDC reports improvement every week since mid-April, both for deaths involving COVID-19 and deaths from all causes. I note that these reports have a delay of "1 week to 8 weeks or more" so we should come back to check the 5,577 (COVID-19) and 53,678 (all cause) numbers that now appear for the week ending 5/30/2020.easy to predict
The median time to death from contracting is about 24 days (5.5 + 18.5). I believe the average is higher than 24, not lower. In two weeks the numbers of deaths will rise like the numbers of cases are now. Check me on that. I think that deaths from all causes is probably the most conservative measure.
I don’t think that’s ever been the point from these guys.
Should we tell him about the third wave? Like it ever mattered what Mike Pence thought.
There is no second wave because most places never ended the first wave. The only reason you are seeing anything close to a second wave is because newyork wa and some of the other blue areas did a good enough job with quarantine to level off and exponentially growth for a couple months
There are a few places I’ve been watching that indeed look like this is the case. Idaho and Utah for some reason we’re just simply spared in March... and are only just now starting to really see these increases. What a weird thing this all is. There is no second wave because most places never ended the first wave.