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am_Unition  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Public Is Astonishingly United

At first, it's like "oh, camping, middle of nowhere, shouldn't be an issue", but then you realize that you're creating demand for e.g. park rangers to man their posts. Maybe there's a happy medium, I dunno.

I do know that this is not a happy medium, it's a bunch of white people celebrating Cinco de Mayo without a single mask in sight.

We need like a social shaming app. China, if you're listening

ButterflyEffect  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have mixed opinions on this and any lengthy response will only become impassioned so I'm going to refrain outside of giving a lot of links and letting people make their own conclusion.

    As of 2016, the National Park Service has an annual budget of about $3 billion and an estimated $12 billion maintenance backlog.[17]

    Table 4. Annual Recreational Visits to the National Park System, 2010-2019

    (total visits in millions, by calendar year)


    Number of Visits

    (in millions) Year

    Number of Visits

    (in millions)

    2010 281.3 2015 307.2

    2011 278.9 2016 331.0

    2012 282.8 2017 330.9

    2013 273.6 2018 318.2

    2014 292.8 2019 (thr. May) 101.9

    Table 5. NPS Full-Time Equivalent (FTE) Staff, FY2010-FY2019


    Number of

    FTEs Year Number of FTEs

    FY2010 22,211 FY2015 19,539

    FY2011 22,051 FY2016 19,722

    FY2012 21,830 FY2017 19,668

    27 For more information on federal government shutdowns, see CRS Report RS20348, Federal Funding Gaps: A Brief

    Overview, by James V. Saturno.

    28 NPS’s staffing estimate for FY2019 was based on an appropriations baseline of $3.202 billion derived from a

    continuing resolution, whereas the final NPS appropriation was somewhat higher at $3.222 billion (excluding


    National Park Service Appropriations: Ten-Year Trends

    Congressional Research Service 18


    Number of

    FTEs Year Number of FTEs

    FY2013 20,720 FY2018 19,032

    FY2014 19,894 FY2019 (est.) 19,114








am_Unition  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can’t imagine how strained the system will get when people start feeling like it’s safe to move around again. :/

ButterflyEffect  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yup. The feds created this mess, specifically the senate. The budget doesn't work for the national park systems. increase 30 million visitors over the course of a decade and decrease 2.5k full time employees in that time frame, increase billions in additional park maintenance backlog in that same frame. And then try and privatize the national park system system because it "doesn't work", or reduce the size of parks, etc...it's the same fucking thing this administration is trying to do to the USPS and it's systemic abuse by our Executive and Legislative branches to both of those organizations.

This is one of the things that pisses me off the most and when people act high and mighty about park use + safety in our current environment it realllllly gets me going. Like, oh now you care are you donating to parks? Are you writing your senators? Or are you just telling people what to do from afar?

Not directing this at you, but I'm seeing a lot of this lately. And it pisses me off.

b_b  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're a reverse racist

am_Unition  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

... , Harry!

It could explain some of the self-loathing, though.

Edit: hey, as far as you know, I'm a Katy Perry singing hick

b_b  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually get that reference, because I looked at my Hubski mail like 20 minutes ago for the first time in probably 1.5 years

am_Unition  ·  70 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, I felt the disturbance in The Force