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cgod  ·  188 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pro-Life” Activist Does Damage Control After Whining About Baby She “Saved”  ·  

I have immense respect for people who strongly oppose abortion and have adopted children who have been born with severe disadvantage.

I am pro-choice all the way.

I've known several people who have put their money where their mouth is and stepped up to care for a kid who is disabled or born with a drug addiiction. While I disagree with their pro-life position, I am overwhelmed by the goodness with which they hew to their beliefs.

Here we have a vapid bitch who would in no way support her beliefs with personal sacrifice.

Who fucking cares.

Are there hypocrites in every social movement?


Is this lady one of them?


Are there idiots who hold their pro-choice position based in nothing but their upbringing and peer group?


This kind of story is nothing but shitty sneering about how right one side is over the other based upon the worst kind of person who hold a certain position. It's the lowest kind of story that reduces the arguments of the other side to a grotesque cartoon. I loath it.

Is abortion murder?

Yes, it is, at least to some extent.

I am an advocate for the murder if the unborn in certain situations. I don't find it a completely comfortable position to assume.

Stories like this make it a lot more comfortable to take a position that should be carefully considered.

I find this post disgusting.

I'd really like to hear a response from lil who bumped this post or steve who I suspect holds some opinion on the subject in response to what I've said. I've thought a lot about it and how I feel about abortion and people who believe it should not be legal.

kleinbl00  ·  187 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I had dinner with the guys who started redditgifts a while back. The subject of /r/atheism came up. I opined that they were giving atheism a bad name because it was a bunch of strawman metooism. They responded that when you grow up in Utah surrounded by jesusfreaks it's nice to have a screaming room where you're not the problem.

I lost friends because I wouldn't go to Younglife with them. I get it. When everyone around you treats you like a cartoon, it's rational and reasonable to look for counter-cartoons. The big problem here is that we hew to our cartoons rather than confronting the humans in front of us. That, more than anything, has been the contribution of social media to society.

We had Drah Mah last year with a student. When interviewed, we caution the students that they will be dealing with patients from all walks of life, gay, straight, religious, antireligious, and that we provide for the patient's needs as determined by medical necessity and personal choice. Abortion was called out explicitly. The students sign their acceptance and agreement with this. But when we had Saudis show up in chadoors, she wasn't cool with it. And when we had a lady with two kids whose unborn child popped a whole bunch of troubling stuff on the genetic test, this student stone refused to help her find a place to get an abortion other than Planned Parenthood. She was willing to say what she needed to get in the door and I guess figured we weren't serious or something?

On the plus side, between family planning, emergency contraception and an inability for genZ to get laid, abortion is at an all-time low.

On the minus side, the crazed 'wingers have been emboldened enough that they think doctors should face murder charges if they don't reimplant ectopic pregnancies.

So yeah. Shitty sneering is shitty but you can't pretend the prolife side is without shitty sneering. These are the fuckers that stood in front of our school buses several times a year with pictures of aborted fetuses. It isn't the abortion rights activists putting up billboards everywhere, always, and it isn't the abortion rights activists murdering doctors. So yeah. You have a point?

But your outrage is unearned.

steve  ·  188 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am pro choice all the way.

I am pro consequence all the way.

I have personal beliefs that affect me. Full stop. Any consequences of those beliefs and choices are mine and mine alone.

And I believe that consequences of others’ choices are theirs and theirs alone.