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kingmudsy  ·  1541 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: On the use and abuse of Nietzsche for the Left

What you're describing with, "How do you know everything is unsatisfactory?" is closer in thought to nihilism. Meaning-making in a world without inherent meaning is actually kind of the goal of existentialism. You should feel satisfied through existentialism, it just asks that you acknowledge your hand in the creation of this satisfaction. The only meaning that could possibly matter to you is the meaning you (consciously or not) decide to derive yourself. If this meaning is belief in a higher power? Fine, Kierkegaard was a theistic existentialist. Hardly the first, either.

You're in a sandbox, and you have to make your own rules to play by.

Meanwhile absurdism (the Camus variety, anyway) agrees with some proponents of existentialist thought (that life has no inherent meaning), but claims that the pursuit of personal meaning is useless - it instead implores people to accept life’s lack of meaning, and rebel by rejoicing in what life does offer.

You're in a sandbox, and instead of making rules you decide to play in the sand.

Not asking you to re-evaluate your claims, but I'm definitely using you as an excuse to talk about this!





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kingmudsy  ·  1540 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah, fair enough - I think I misinterpreted a pretty decent amount of your original comment :)

For what it's worth, I don't think life is shit. I also don't really subscribe to nihilistic thought much, I'm just fascinated with the reasoning behind it and the different conclusions that have been spun from it. If there's no meaning...What does that mean? Where does that lead?

I also think I protect myself well by not worrying about them too much. Maybe life doesn't have meaning, but who cares? Like you said, I'm pretty satisfied. I like the hypothetical, but I figure that the pursuit of an answer doesn't really lead to satisfaction, and the answer itself isn't really something I'm interested in determining. I like the evaluation, not the conclusion. I'll slap an absurdist label on that mindset if it helps people, but I don't really care to know if Camus is right; I know he had some interesting thoughts, and that's good enough.

I think I'm more interested in contextualism in architecture than philosophy anyways