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kleinbl00  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Let's predict the 2020 Dem Iowa Caucus results

    I am entirely baffled by why politicians are throwing their support behind Bernie, and not Warren. Especially people like AOC.

Because this is the only place you get to shape the narrative of the Democratic platform.

I gave Bernie money. I've never given Warren any money despite the fact that I bought her books before she was in the Senate. I think she'd be a hell of a president. But then, I thought Clinton would be a hell of a president, too - the best Republican we've ever had.

Would I vote for Amy Fucking Klobuchar? Sure. But I'd rather vote for an Amy Fucking Klobuchar who has been dragged left like a cattle rustler behind a conestoga. There's this imaginary centrist voter that everyone who would have been a Republican in 1972 but is now a democrat because even they can't handle the Taliban wants you to believe in so hard because it allows them to have their globalism and eat it too and they need Matewan and the TVA shoved down their throats so hard because you know what? If you want the racist vote pander to their economic despair not their idealism if their kid can go to college without bankrupting three generations their need to wave confederate flags around gets moderated somewhat.

You know what? If it gets the party away from Joe "I lost primaries to Mondale and Dukakis" Biden I will endorse Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. 'cuz you know what? Joe "Just not feelin' it in 2016" Biden will absolutely have my vote but I'm cynical enough to also go

You know what, Iowa? FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU and your entire bullshit primary Amish Mennonite Protodemocracy horserace wring your goddamn hands somewhere else, goddamnit I want my country back.





goobster  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah but ... yeah but ... we did that before, and it didn't work then, either.

(I still have my ticket from when I caucused for Bernie the first time...)

kleinbl00  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Bitch I canvassed for Kerry. The Light Brigade? I charged in it. I have voted against soooooo many Republicans in my life.

But I also voted against McCain and for Bush in the 2000 primary because I triangulated to getting the Republicans the stupidest candidate imaginable. Fool me twice, shame on... we won't get fooled again. Vote your fuckin' heart, and if that's not available vote your head. I will hold my nose and do my level best to elect anyone who isn't Trump when it gets down to it but here in the early times where we absolutely positively give a shit about yet another tired-ass set of ancient 'boomer undecideds?

Friend of mine has been a booster of Sanders since he declared in 2015 or whatever. Right now? She's all about Bloomberg. Why? Because she's a SoCal woman in her 60s. The "electability" gambit is all about supporting the status quo, which has long since stopped giving a shit about anyone but Microsoft, Amazon and Apple.

user-inactivated  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why does Iowa go first, and not a state that is more diverse economically and ethnographically? Wouldn't a state like Pennsylvania or Georgia or California give a better pulse reading? Also, does going first matter? Cause if it doesn't, then my question isn't really necessary.

kleinbl00  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fundamentally? Because these are the rules of a multi-state organization whose focus is factionalism, not democracy.

We like to think of ourselves as a democracy but really, we're an ancient parliamentary system designed to favor the incumbents.

goobster  ·  1537 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Why does Iowa go first...?

Becuz reasons.

Basically we don't want farmers to feel left out, despite the fact there's about 10x tech workers in America to farmers. (According to 2018 numbers, and farmers have fallen since then.)