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Cumol  ·  41 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I didn't punch a Nazi, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I also want to punch the right winger shouting "death to the Arabs" at football game.

I also want to punch the security people at the airport for "randomly" checking me (100% of the time), humiliating me, making me feel like second class.

But I am an Arab in a Jewish country. I am second class, now even by (law) [https://www.vox.com/world/2018/7/31/17623978/israel-jewish-nation-state-law-bill-explained-apartheid-netanyahu-democracy].

I will get every punch back tenfolds. The only way for me to punch back is by living, continuing my path, succeeding. My mere existence is a punch to them, and that is good like that.

Can you afford punching a nazi? Do it. Can you do it in a way you minimize damage to yourself? Even better.





goobster  ·  40 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oof. I have a lot of knowledge of the three cultures clashing in the middle east, and that situation is just so fucked from every perspective. And nothing can progress as long as Bibi is still in power.

I'm so sorry for what they have done to your status.

The whole point is to get you to leave on your own... and I have a hard time arguing against that exact thing... what can one person do? At some point, doesn't a person get to the point where they must consider their own well-being and lifetime, and just go somewhere else to try to make something new?

Ugh. There are no easy answers. I'm sorry, my friend.

kantos  ·  40 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    At some point, doesn't a person get to the point where they must consider their own well-being and lifetime, and just go somewhere else to try to make something new?

Hey... I can't answer for Cumol. I asked a similar question to a Gazan working on the farm with me in IL, though. Whether the language barrier, or didn't want to delve into it at the time notably, how fucked the irony in an American Jew asking that in the first place, the simple answer was family. This is where they lived. Whether that extended to generations past seemed ambiguous in the tone.

goobster  ·  40 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah. I worked with a friend of mine on his books about the region and the troubles there. And then I married a Jew with a very pro-Israel father, who isn't blind to the myriad issues there, but is nonetheless very pro-Israel.

I know so many families who have left their home countries, and relocated somewhere with greater opportunity and fewer chances to die. And they miss their home countries, but they love their adopted ones, whether it is Sweden, Canada, Britain, USA, or Australia.

The world is a big place. Moving to another part of it is a big decision... but so is choosing to stay. At some point, the math just has to tip the scales... but that point is going to be different for every individual.

No easy answers, that's for sure.