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dshmract  ·  1741 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Our Orlando Sentinel endorsement for president in 2020: Not Donald Trump | Editorial

Honestly I don't get this. With the possible exception of immigration he's pretty moderate on most issues; he actually left syria when we defeated ISIS and he's avoid a war with Iran even though they're trying to start one. Although you can complain about his rhetoric at times he's generally pretty stable and has a good record for getting things done. I don't understand why everyone is so opposed to him, he's done a good job so far





johnnyFive  ·  1741 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    good job

We apparently have very different definitions of what this means.

dshmract  ·  1741 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But like during the 2016 campaign he was:

- the most lgbt friendly major republican candidate

- most trans friendly major candidate (only one to my knowledge to oppose the NC bathroom ban)

- most abortion friendly (he does oppose abortions but he's sort of wishy-washy on it and there's good reason to believe he only changed his opinion to run for president)

- generally leans against war (as we've seen recently in syria and Iran)

- he cut corporate taxes to 21% (obama wanted to cut them to 25%)

- he pushed for the first step act to be passed (lowers term limits)

- has put considerable effort into raising poc/black wages (that was like all he tweeted about for a year)

- Even on immigration, the RISE act was just an attempt to copy canada/UK/australia/EU/HK on their immigration policies, and a decade ago Hillary, Schumer and Obama were all voting yes on hundreds of miles of border wall

I suppose if the orlando sentinel is a left-wing publication it makes sense they wouldn't endorse trump, but he's not really that far right.

thenewgreen  ·  1741 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Did you read the article? They’re not a left leaning publication and with the exception of one other time, they’ve always endorsed the republican candidate. There’s no reason to speculate as to why they’re opposed to Trump having a second term. They’re very explicit.

The #1 reason, “he lies.” A lot.

    So many lies — from white lies to whoppers — told out of ignorance, laziness, recklessness, expediency or opportunity.

They go in to give examples:

    claimed in 2017 that he lost the popular vote because millions of people voted illegally (they didn’t). In 2018 he said North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat (it is). And in 2019 he said windmills cause cancer (they don’t). Just last week he claimed the media fabricated unfavorable results from his campaign’s internal polling (it didn’t).

    According to a Washington Post database, the president has tallied more than 10,000 lies since he took office.

They go on to say;

    Trump’s successful assault on truth is the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency.

I think that sentence summarized my feelings well. I don’t disagree that he’s actually done some good things. But at what cost? We will not be able to undo the damage he’s doing to the office. He’s normalized lying. He’s normalized having a president that taunts people like an 8 year old bully. He’s normalized willful ignorance and a general lack of curiosity about the world.

He’s an asshole. We have decades of interviews and tapes of him prior to the presidency showing that he’s an absolutely douche. And we elected him.

It’s a hard thing for many of us to stomach, even if he occasionally accomplishes something worthwhile. The ends will not justify the means, here. I find him embarrassing. I’m ashamed that we elected him.

johnnyFive  ·  1740 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So you think what he campaigned on is more important than what he actually does?