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goobster  ·  1786 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Scene report from the Chernobyl Zone

    Chernobyl happened because the Soviets were poor and didn’t want the world to know they were punching above their weight.

As it stands with Russia today, too.

As a country, Russia is basically Moscow and the 100 mile oblast around it, St Petersburg (for foreign tourism), and the Black Sea coast (for vacationing Russians). Their economy is tiny. Their infrastructure is almost non-existent (on a per-capita basis). And yet we are continually told to consider them our single largest threat on the planet.

I've never understood the US's utter fascination with making Russia the boogeyman... it's completely out of scope with their ability to project power more than walking distance from their border.





kleinbl00  ·  1785 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I've never understood the US's utter fascination with making Russia the boogeyman...

At the end of WWII there were two countries left standing - the US and the USSR. There were two ideologies left standing - capitalism and Marxism-Leninism. They battled until they were eyeball to eyeball and then partitioned the world. Who can you make the bogeyman if not the one nation you aren't dealing with?

Make a spectrum. Put your direst enemy on one end, yourself on the other. You can deal with everyone on the spectrum except your direst enemy because everyone else is a matter of degree. And as soon as the Soviets tested nukes it was gonna be proxies all over the world forever and ever amen.

goobster  ·  1785 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure sure sure. I get/know all that. I lived through most of it.

What I don't get is the continued fascination with Russia and fetishization of them as Dr Evil-type nogoodniks.

I guess there are just too many John Bolton's still clinging to power. Old scared white men are our fucking cross to bear, aren't they?

TOMORROW leaders could flip the script on Russia, expose their sad economic numbers, their lack of ability to mobilize, their cartoonish Cold War-style efforts in the various -istans, and their flaccid attempts at projecting power in the middle east, and quickly turn the Russia narrative from Evil Empire to the KGB's Clown-like Grandchildren. Seems like a much more powerful narrative, and one that we could control easily. Also puts us in a solid position to do better business with China, and become a real collaborative trading partner, rather than a begging dog at the foot of whichever loony is currently running China. (Deng?)

kleinbl00  ·  1784 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    What I don't get is the continued fascination with Russia and fetishization of them as Dr Evil-type nogoodniks.

Seriously? 'cuz as soon as Yeltsin was out, our Free Market Makeover of Russia was over and the KGB was running things same as they ever were.

    TOMORROW leaders could flip the script on Russia, expose their sad economic numbers, their lack of ability to mobilize, their cartoonish Cold War-style efforts in the various -istans, and their flaccid attempts at projecting power in the middle east, and quickly turn the Russia narrative from Evil Empire to the KGB's Clown-like Grandchildren.

How the fuck do you expect to sell $350m F-35s with that kind of attitude, young man?

OftenBen  ·  1784 days ago  ·  link  ·