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galen  ·  1833 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: New Horrors: China Harvesting Muslim Organs in Concentration Camps.

From the European parliament:

    Until 1 January 2015 organs were removed from executed prisoners in China without their consent and transplanted. "Although the situation has improved slightly, the secrecy over death penalty figures and organ transplant statistics are made it so far very difficult to gain an accurate picture", said Jöelle Hivonnet from the European External Action Service.

Hard to find any hard and fast analyses here, particularly not from reputable sources. (Some of the key sources for the Medium article are campaigning Conservative MPs trying to win anti-Communist points.) Seems like China might very well be selling the organs of executed prisoners, but it's very hard to prove, and that still isn't exactly the same as "harvesting organs in concentration camps."

Btw:

    If it is true, then it's insane that MSM isn't talking about it 24/7.

Occam's Razor. More likely that this wildly flagrant and proven human rights violation is being totally ignored by MSM, or that the claims of this Medium article, supported by a few British tabloid pieces, are exaggerated?





OftenBen  ·  1833 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Counterpoint -

China is investing heavily into foreign markets - it pays advertisers to keep the Chinese government/Chinese market happy.

kleinbl00  ·  1833 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Counter-counterpoint:

OftenBen  ·  1832 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

I think there is an argument to be made that China is trying to export the social credit idea.

One of the exports of Empire is culture, yes?

I'm still knee-deep in Durant so that's the lens I'm putting this all through, as much as possible.

kleinbl00  ·  1832 days ago  ·  link  ·  

... Huh. I hadn't considered that. They are elbows deep in Africa and the Chinese version of McFascism might be just the ticket for your average upwardly mobile despot.

OftenBen  ·  1832 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Happy to provide a fresh idea.