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mk  ·  14 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Enduring the tide: the flooded Philippine islands that locals won't leave

I think the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is selling a best case scenario. The sea level is not going to creep up.

I was walking in Miami Beach with my daughter last weekend, and told her that one day she will be able to tell her kids about how she walked in Miami before it was gone.

    Glacier, which has recorded some of the most rapid melt rates out of anywhere in Antarctica. Currently thought to be pouring about 50 billion tons of ice into the ocean each year, scientists estimate Thwaites is responsible for about 4 percent of global sea-level rise all on its own.

    And they’re worried it could be getting worse.

    Some researchers are concerned that the giant glacier could become increasingly unstable in the coming years, eventually spiraling into a pattern of unstoppable retreat. If that were to happen, it could potentially unleash enough ice to raise global sea levels by 10 feet.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/huge-hole-discovered-beneath-fast-melting-antarctic-glacier




kleinbl00  ·  14 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Reality for me was when Zurich:Re bumped up the rates they were charging other insurance companies to write policies in coastal areas. It was like "have whatever cosmology you want about this, we're here for the benjamins." That was maybe ten years ago.

Now the Navy is doing FONOPs in the Arctic Ocean because they can and they're building fourteen sea walls to protect naval bases.

I saw the hole thing this morning. Miami at 10ft.

user-inactivated  ·  14 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's part of what makes this a compelling article. Because of the quakes that caused the islands to dip a bit, the flooding started relatively abruptly. If sea levels rise faster than we expect, this might become a pretty common scenario. Between you, me, and anyone else reading this, I'm actually not that surprised the people on these islands are staying. Humans are pretty resilient and can survive under so many conditions that can be considered less than ideal.

That said, I think as situations where communities are facing hardship due to climate change start cropping up more and more, we need to ask some very important questions. Are people staying because they genuinely want to stay, or because there are too many barriers to relocating? If there are barriers to relocating, we need to figure out what they are and what we can do to help address them. If people genuinely want to stay, then we need to look at the challenges that will face them if they do and how some of them can be addressed. For example, for this community here, the flooded houses, the floating waste, and the hampered ability to grow food in the community are all issues that are cause for concern, but also ones that can probably realistically be tackled with the right knowledge and resources.