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kleinbl00  ·  221 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Bermuda Triangle of Wealth

It's not fair to blame Graham Leach Bliley on Clinton. He's a globalist but two years into his first term we had the Contract with America which meant a solid fucking year of the government shutting down every now and then for days at a time. Make no mistake - he didn't go to the mattresses protecting the integrity of America's thrifts either but the MORE BIGGER BANKS NOW movement definitely came out of Gingrich's camp.

Why? Fuckin' benjamins, yo.

OftenBen  ·  217 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So our reason for thinking that the Blue team will suddenly support putting Glass-Steagall - like protections in place is .... What exactly? Our reason for thinking that the Blue team will reign in the financier class is what exactly?

I got lost somewhere along the way.

kleinbl00  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Did you just "get" me? Did I just "get got?"

Here's the thing, Ben. Most of my Hubski participation for two days was given over to patiently answering your questions. You'll note I didn't rise to the bait of your "Billy boy" goads because I respect you and consider you capable of learning. After all, you plowed through a 25-book geopolitical list (that I also generated for your benefit, remember).

And where does that leave us? You standing there, jumping up and down like a toddler that needs to pee, saying "GOTCHA! SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT!"

Have you ever looked at yourself in the mirror while you're sitting there gloating?

'cuz here's the sad thing, Ben. First of all, we're talking about a nineteen year old bill. Second of all, I already explained at length how it was primarily the work of the Gingrich congress. Third of all, the banking act instituted to repair some of the damage is named after two Democrats.

And I know that every question you asked was a rhetorical form of "let me shit all over Democrats because I hate them more than Republicans." And I know that every answer I gave was one that you were blithely ignoring because you couldn't wait to say "SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT" (three whole days - you're either busy or bored). And I know that in your head you're Lucy and the only thing you live for is pulling the fuckin' football before Charlie Brown can kick it.

But the fact of the matter is, I'm answering your questions and you just look like a spoiled toddler.

You're better than this, and I no longer have the time. So in the future, if you'd just kindly post a picture of Tucker Carlson instead of asking any questions you'll get to make your point ("I'm a spoiled toddler") and I won't waste my time trying to tell you stuff instead of hanging out with my wife, hanging out with my kid or working on my homework.


OftenBen  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Also I literally don't even know who Tucker Carlson or any other talking head is. I know the name and that he's some kind of non-leftist/non-liberal and that's it.

OftenBen  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Did you just "get" me? Did I just "get got?"

Not at all what I am trying to do.

I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview. A part of that is the willingness to vote blue team and not completely hate myself for doing it. Im trying to understand how these two things can be reconciled.

1. The repeal of Glass-Steagall opened pandora's box of financial fuckery that likely will never be able to be closed.

2. A Democrat president with a Democratic majority in both house and Senate not only allowed it to happen but encouraged and supported it.

And these are the people I am supposed to be giving my support to? You already know my opinion of lesser-evilism

I am envious of your apparently clean political conscience. I am in pursuit of one for myself.

kleinbl00  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview.

This is the lie you tell yourself. The insulting thing is that you think the rest of us are fooled. Not once, not twice but three times you've tried to swing this back to Clinton and his evil ways despite being told not once, not twice but three times that Clinton was tangentially involved at best, that it was a (famously and assiduously) Republican majority that repealed Glass Steagall.

What's really stupid is if you were even any good at your Plague On Both Your Houses schtick, you'd fuckin' look up some of those links I sent your way and go but but but it passed 90-8 that proooves they're all eeeeeeeeeevillllllll but you don't even have the conviction of your own bullshit to pay lip service to the debate. Which really just makes you an asshole besides.

Senate: 55R-45D. House: 227R-207D. Again, I've said this shit three times yet you sit there sputtering in your moral dudgeon and claim no really! "I'm trying to assemble a more internally consistent and less hopeless worldview."

For once and for all, fuck off with that shit. EVERY conversation with you has become "I hear you have some thoughtful discourse... FOR ME TO POOP ON" and I'm fuckin' done.

bfv  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    And these are the people I am supposed to be giving my support to? You already know my opinion of lesser-evilism

Then you've ruled out the only answer anyone can give you.

OftenBen  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're saying that there is no positive case for voting Dem? That the only reason to vote Blue is because they aren't Red?

The best part of all of this is that I decided months ago to just vote blue team basically across the board regardless because it's necessary for the elimination of small problems. It also makes me complicit when an all blue majority decides to make another big fucking bad decision like the Glass-Steagall repeal.

bfv  ·  216 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure there are positive reasons to vote for Democrats. They don't generally want to put children in cages, prevent anyone who isn't old and white from voting, inject the bible into medicine and education, deregulate all the things even when it is obviously and stupidly self-destructive, ..., but you know all that. The Democrats are inadequate, and it is horrible that they're the best viable option. But they're the best viable option. See about helping out Mutual Aid Disaster Relief or something if you really want to try to change that. But also vote Capitalist Shill over Foaming At The Mouth Barbarian every two years too, because it's not like it's hard and more of the same really is better than outright malice.