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comment by cgod

    [Writing] will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the show of wisdom without the reality.

-Socrates

    “I think Hitler was a beginner compared to the comic-book industry,” wrote psychiatrist Frederic Wertham in his 1954 book, “Seduction of the Innocent,” which linked comics to the rise in juvenile delinquency.

Jazz music was going to make women into dope smoking whores and men into rapist.

Rock and Roll. I wish I could find the quote but there was a doctor, who in congressional testimony, said something along the lines that the rhythm of Paint it Black was antithetical to the beating of the human heart and should be banned from the radio lest it kill off the youth.

Photography was going to easily enable the reproduction of salacious images and corrupt the masses.

We could talk about banned books if ya like but if you don't get my point I'm waiting my breath.

Every new form of media or artistic style seems to have it's doomsayers.

Almost all modern media has had a doctor lead the charge against it on a bassis of "scientifically" quantified danger of moral decay.

You should be careful of what you consume but you should also be carful to have some kind of not clickbaity foundation upon which to base your belifes if you want to ground them in reality.



OftenBen  ·  2091 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You should be careful of what you consume

Billy Burr agrees

    Do you ever feel like there's shit you shouldn't watch? I look at your soul like it's pixelated, and every time you watch some shit, like, that a couple of cubes float away. And the next day, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich doesn't just taste as well? Like, there's certain shit... you gotta draw a line okay? We're all adults, I'm not saying where the line is, but you gotta know where you soul is wired. Where you just gotta be like, like, (to Rogan) you're like deep cover. You're watching some guy take a(a knife to his dick), I'm watching the Food Network.
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user-inactivated  ·  2092 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You should be careful of what you consume but you should also be carful to have some kind of not clickbaity foundation upon which to base your belifes if you want to ground them in reality.

I am aware and I agree.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I disagree with the findings of the article, nor am I advocating for censorship, nor am I making a blanket statement saying that video games as a whole or even certain types of video games are unhealthy and should not be consumed at all. All I said was, is that whatever we consume in our lives do affect us, including video games, and it's important to be mindful of that.

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cgod  ·  2091 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a nice sentiment I suppose.

The thing is that this is about weather video games cause violent behavior and the evidence doesn't seem to show that they do that.

The evidence leans toward probably not and barring more evidence it seems like keeping an open mind is somewhat foolish, not that you were debating that, you were pretty carefully saying nothing about the topic at hand, while waxing philosophical in a post about violent video games. I'm not saying that your comment was directly pointed toward suggesting that we shouldn't tend to believe that video games make people more violent but maybe you can see how others might feel that you are being disingenuous.

I'm all for being mindful about what you consume. I don't watch TV because I think it's a pestilent shit hole that constantly pushes messages that make us greedy, unhappy, jealous and generally supports moral values that are either saccharinly hollow or anti-social. I think our entire society is has had it's brains twisted and our values corrupted by advertising and that we are all mostly chasing things that could would never align with our true desires if we could break the spell. It's even killing our planet. Amusing ourselves to death.

I don't really think that video games are so bad. I find some gross and don't play many violent games but can't possibly imagine that an hour of video games can do as much damage as an hour of commercials.

I guess we all have our little niches of fear and suspicion. I'd gladly give up gaming for the rest of my days if I could trade it for a plague that killed every last person that says they work in marketing. Dare To Dream!

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thenewgreen  ·  2091 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'd gladly give up gaming for the rest of my days if I could trade it for a plague that killed every last person that says they work in marketing
As spoken by someone that clearly has only ever worked with low level shitheel marketers...

Performed at a high level, like all things, marketing is an art form.

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cgod  ·  2091 days ago  ·  link  ·  

An art form that makes us value things more than people. An art that thrives by making us feel like what we have is not good enough, that we are not think enough, pretty enough, smart enough, rich enough or happy enough. An art that is killing our planet, that promoted depression and manic consumption and desire.

The more artful the marketer who walks away from destroying our minds the better.

I think you totally misunderstand my fears.

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psychoticmilkman  ·  2091 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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