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tacocat  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Outrage over Cartoon Network’s Thundercats reboot: ‘CalArts style’

It was complete shit.

I fail to understand the outrage as a person who thinks Teen Titans Go is a good way for kids to get into comics. Comics were my gateway to reading. But they're a gateway to being a butthurt canon obsessed useless human for other people. Whatcha gonna do?





kleinbl00  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Two can play at that game.

Here's the outrage: You have your style of animation that you like (that any thinking person can acknowledge as pure shit) and I have mine (that any thinking person can acknowledge as the One True Faith). You watch your shows, I'll watch mine. But if you're going to claim one of my icons and turn it into one of yours, you might as well draw a Star of David on the goddamn Kaaba because jihad is inevitable at this point, infidel.

Canon's got fuckall to do with it. One side believes that animation should be done with finesse and skill. The other believes it should be done without corners. The cornerless side doesn't understand the issue because of course they don't because they think these look like people:

tacocat  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've been around comics nerds long enough to sorta get the outrage. Yeah sure, not your Luke Skywalker. Because you ignore all the fuck ups he committed in the first three movies in favor of him being some super hero.

Nerds just get their panties in a wad for no fucking reason. The Flash's girlfriend can't be black! She isn't black in the comics! She's black in the comics now!? I will take to the Twitter to voice my discontent!

I can sorta get in that headspace but I'm still like STFU. Thundercats was an awful cartoon with some kinda cool toys. Get your head out of your ass about this.

kleinbl00  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You say you get it but you don't.

Luke Skywalker has always been played by Mark Hammill. No matter who writes him, he's always some form of Mark Hammill. Solo? Not Harrison Ford anymore, but definitely an attempt to stay in the same vein.

Once more with feeling, Thundercats is a long, loooooonnng walk from Star Wars. Let's instead go for something a little more on point, like Sea Quest. Roy Scheider is dead, after all, so we're going to need to re-cast. Shall we go with Zach Galifianakis? Or maybe Jonah Hill? No matter how you feel about Sea Quest, you can acknowledge that it's going to be a different show. And it's not going to be liked by Sea Quest fans, the ostensible reason for the reboot's existence. No, it's going to be liked by Jonah Hill fans.

That you insist this is about race or some shit just shows how badly you want there to be no reason behind it.

tacocat  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    That you insist this is about race or some shit just shows how badly you want there to be no reason behind it.

Not at all. I just think if you actually care about the characters you'd want them exposed to as many people as possible. But these assholes are just completely beholden to an art style they know more from stills than actually watching the shit cartoon. But there's about nothing to care about with this cartoon. So people bitch about the art style. I definitely understand that the Teen Titans cartoon getting cancelled in favor of Go left some people salty. Because it abandoned storylines the characters are deeper than anthropomorphic cats. I get the argument to a degree, I just don't understand why people give a fuck about Thundercats of all things. Except they like the concept and a memory more than the product. Which lends itself to dumbass arguments if you are really not invested in the franchise and just vaguely remember a serious cartoon that was actually complete shit, Now that I think about it

kleinbl00  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude - you've got me defending the goddamn Thundercats and I hated them mightily as an eight year old. Why? Because at least they look like something.

Fuck the storylines, fuck the characters, fuck the actual cartoon - people are salty because effortful art has been sidelined for effortless art. This may surprise you, but people hated the ever-loving shit out of the Muppet Babies, too. Why? We went from this:

To this:

And clearly - if you want to watch infantilized bullshit nobody is going to stop you. I mean, they gave Seth McFarlane Cosmos and Star Trek so we're pretty much fucked forever. But every time something with one aesthetic gets retconned for an objectively worse aesthetic, people are gonna bitch even if they were never going to watch either version.

I had to buy a Porsche 911. It was the only sports car with a back seat. I've hated Porsche 911s my entire life. But by the time the car buying public had SUV'd their way through the marketplace, a 14-year-old Porsche 911 was the only sports car I could buy for less than $100k. And that's fucking retarded.

I give two shits about Thundercats. The fact that sports cars are dying out? That shit bugs me.

steve  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didn’t remember that I knew all the words to the Muppet Babies theme song... thanks for that memory. If I remember correctly, I had to let my sister watch that show so I could watch something I wanted to on Saturday mornings.

kleinbl00  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Latchkey kid checking in.

2nd grade after school: Good Times reruns.

3rd grade after school: Robotech.

4th grade after school: Fucking Muppet Babies.

5th grade after school: Fucking Ducktales.

It was enough to drive a kid to read.

steve  ·  2128 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think I had to suffer through Muppet Babies so I could watch this:

tacocat  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Dude - you've got me defending the goddamn Thundercat

Meanwhile I give about zero fucks and my argument with these people boils down to "Why do you care?" so I will get bored soon and let you piss in the wind about cat people

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kleinbl00  ·  2130 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Dude. You don't even like cartoons.

Says who? Unlike anybody else here, I've been directly involved in the production of three series. I've partied at Titmouse twice. My voice is in animation with something like 30 million Youtube views.

    Why are you getting so riled up over whether animators spend more effort on plot or artstyle.

...animators spend zero effort on plot. That's what writers do. What's got me riled up is the notion that anybody who cares what something looks like is an idiotic fanboi that needs to STFU because obviously if things are devolving past the Blue Meanies of 1967 it's because art is in motion or some shit.