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tacocat  ·  264 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Dr. Huxtable

Bill Cosby: serial rapist will probably never fully sink into my brain

_refugee_  ·  264 days ago  ·  link  ·  

does it help if you refer to him as Pill

it helps me

thenewgreen  ·  262 days ago  ·  link  ·  

LOL. Best possible solution. I actually have come to terms with Bill Cosby being a monster. It's pretty crazy for someone of my generation. I grew up with him up there with Mr. Rogers in the social hierarchy of people you should trust. Cosby had Picture Pages and Fat Albert when I was a really little kid and then came the Cosby Show and he was literally americas dad. Everyone loved the show. It crossed all social demos.

Just nuts to think that the whole time he was a serial rapist. I know that some people can separate the two but I can't. I can't see or hear anything from him now without thinking about him being a monster.

_refugee_  ·  258 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can't either. To be honest, I think his position of moral authority (I read a few articles about how he basically was viewed as/presented as a black success story/a black man who lectured younger black men on being better (being more like him in other words) and presented that image through his comedy as well as outside of it - this article discuss what i'm trying to say) makes the whole thing that much worse, and makes it that much harder to enjoy his acting ("America's Dad" rapes women!) and comedy routines because that moralizing or presentation was such a part of those earlier performances.

If I grew up watching those I'd feel more than disturbed by his behavior, I'd feel betrayed by the guy who always acted and preached so wholesome and turned out to be rotten to the core.

It's so much easier to still enjoy Remix to Ignition despite its creator's crimes, which are at least similar (certainly both fall in the class of taking advantage of women who lacked the capacity to protect themselves), than a bunch of conscious posturing and holier-than-thou-thus-listen smarm.

thenewgreen  ·  257 days ago  ·  link  ·  

True story:

_refugee_  ·  257 days ago  ·  link  ·  

in retrospect it just reeks of control; just a different iteration of a ridiculously overwhelming need to regulate and control everyone around him

thenewgreen  ·  257 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Great observation

dublinben  ·  264 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I just don't have heroes anymore. I assume everyone successful has abused their position of power somehow.

_refugee_  ·  258 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Idk Elizabeth Warren is a personal hero of mine and as founder of the CFPB I really believe her ethos is on the side of the consumer/average american -- it would shock me if she was found to have abused that trust -- but I do also agree, all humans have flaws. Maybe she has. But to this kind of magnitude? -- I just cannot believe it, ever ---

coffeesp00ns  ·  263 days ago  ·  link  ·  

it's okay to have heroes, or people you respect. You just have to remember that all humans are flawed, and that putting them on a pedestal is a good way to get yourself disappointed.

tacocat  ·  263 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I will be your hero, baby

I can kiss away the pain

steve  ·  263 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is so depressingly accurate...