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FirebrandRoaring  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys

    “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”

That reason seems to lie with the answer to "Why are blacks still considered inferior by some people?".

Richard Dawkins has theorized that religion propagates down generations because older people keep telling younger people to pray to an invisible entity, and younger people have no way of distinguishing the sense from the nonsense, so they pray without questioning. I suspect that the same kind of conditioning is what's affecting the racism in the US.





kleinbl00  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This was an important book to me because it made the point that racism is a function of class, not the other way 'round. In the United States, the dominant race has a class system whereby the lowest members can feel better about themselves because however bad they have it, at least they're in the hierarchy... unlike those immediately-recognizable people who aren't. From the Russians I know, what's important isn't so much how much money you make, but the fact that you aren't Asian-looking. I know a Muscovite who has utter contempt for everybody not from Moscow and she's the palest girl I've ever met. I know a girl from Samarkand who has utter contempt for Muscovites... but her dad is a fighter pilot from Kiev and her mom is Uzbek. She grew up a white-trash half-breed out in the sticks while my Muscovite friend has a VK feed full of models.

"Seems like we like our Africans hungry and corrupt."

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    "Seems like we like our Africans hungry and corrupt."

Then what's the difference between those who do and those who don't?

kleinbl00  ·  2220 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2220 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah, nevermind. I thought I was asking something important. Turned out, I can't paraphrase the question without it sounding kindergarten-stupid.

tacocat  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Racism in the US is a little complicated but fear of the 'other' is probably the best simple explanation. A hundred twenty years ago the Irish weren't white, Italians weren't white. White for all intents and purposes was white Anglo-Saxon Protestant. You're hard pressed to identify someone who's grandparents were Irish or Italian today. They're white enough. I can possibly see Latinos becoming white enough in a hundred years as they integrate and marry white Americans. Ted fucking Cruz is Cuban when it suits him politically. But blackness doesn't integrate the same way. If you're half black you still look very black. And the genetic dominance of African features is a random and unfortunate continuing identifier of otherness. At least that's my take.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

May I be a dick?

Racism anywhere is not complicated. Racial relationships are. US, South Africa, Russia, and now Germany, France, Sweden... It's those relationships that one has to address to better the situation.

People will always find something negative about others. Finding positives despite differences... that takes some education and persuasion.

PTR  ·  2220 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    May I be a dick?

LOL you're mind-numbingly out-of-touch with normal communicative behavior. No surprise there, considering some of the things I've seen you say, but it's still fascinating watching you try.

    Racism anywhere is not complicated. Racial relationships are.

Fuck outta here with that shit. The term "racism" also encompasses the idea of "race relations" among many others, and all of it's complicated as fuck. So what?

You win no edgy, "dick"-ish points for trying to draw a semantic difference between racism and race relations based on which one's more "complicated". Like wut? The distinction is meaninglessly myopic at this level of conversation - a conversation you pursued in bad faith, so it's no wonder taco isn't into it.

We've been down similar paths before with your pointless quibbling over semantics. Your behavior in confrontation is familiar to everyone on this site, and I don't expect this time to go any better.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2220 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    you're mind-numbingly out-of-touch with normal communicative behavior

I keep hearing that. Do better.

tacocat  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    May I be a dick?

Never stopped you before.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You wanna talk about it? Shoot me a private message. We'll talk.

There's a conversation to be had in these here comments, and how much of a dick you think I am ain't it.

tacocat  ·  2221 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No thanks. You're insufferable past a point I can deal with.