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kleinbl00  ·  2206 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What was the original format war?

Gonna go with that time cuneiform flipped from up-down to left-right.

    n the mid-3rd millennium BC, the direction of writing was changed to left-to-right in horizontal rows (rotating all of the pictographs 90° counter-clockwise in the process) and a new wedge-tipped stylus was introduced which was pushed into the clay, producing wedge-shaped ("cuneiform") signs; these two developments made writing quicker and easier. By adjusting the relative position of the tablet to the stylus, the writer could use a single tool to make a variety of impressions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script#Proto-literate_period

It's possible there was a conflict over pictographic representation in cave paintings but I don't know enough to comment.





user-inactivated  ·  2206 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How, in my constant trawling of Wikipedia, that I've never come across this page surprises me. This is fascinating as hell.

    The spoken language included many homophones and near-homophones, and in the beginning similar-sounding words such as "life" [til] and "arrow" [ti] were written with the same symbol. After the Semites conquered Southern Mesopotamia, some signs gradually changed from being pictograms to syllabograms, most likely to make things clearer in writing. In that way the sign for the word "arrow" would become the sign for the sound "ti". Words that sounded alike would have different signs; for instance the syllable "gu" had fourteen different symbols. When the words had similar meaning but very different sounds they were written with the same symbol. For instance "tooth" [zu], "mouth" [ka] and "voice" [gu] were all written with the symbol for "voice". To be more accurate, scribes started adding to signs or combining two signs to define the meaning. They used either geometrical patterns or another cuneiform sign. As time went by, the cuneiform got very complex and the distinction between a pictogram and syllabogram became vague. Several symbols had too many meanings to permit clarity. Therefore, symbols were put together to indicate both the sound and the meaning of a compound. The word "Raven" [UGA] had the same logogram as the word "soap" [NAGA], name of a city [EREŠ] and the patron goddess of Eresh [NISABA]. Two phonetic complements were used to define the word [u] in front of the symbol and [gu] behind. Finally the symbol for "bird" [MUŠEN] was added to ensure proper interpretation.[clarification needed]

    Written Sumerian was used as a scribal language until the first century AD. The spoken language died out around the 18th century BC.

Quatrarius  ·  2206 days ago  ·  link  ·  

you might be interested in the structure of chinese characters as well / how they were adapted by people around them that spoke different languages

user-inactivated  ·  2206 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right! I should look into that. It was something covered very briefly in a class I took years ago in college and just the little bit covered was really interesting. I think we looked at the evolution of the word "horse."

kleinbl00  ·  2206 days ago  ·  link  ·