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b_b  ·  2234 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Trump ousts Tillerson, will replace him as secretary of state with CIA chief Pompeo

I'm close to ready to go full on conspiracy theorist here. This time last year I fully expected that Ryan and McConnell would jump ship after (1) they got their Spanish Inquisitor confirmed to the court, (2) they gutted the ACA, and (3) transferred more of the tax burden to the middle class while making the revenue picture one that necessitates cutting lots and lots in the near future. They got all three and yet they're still all in. Why? There are only a few reasonable explanations.

First is that they're enjoying gutting the welfare state so much that they just don't want to stop. This is likely. It doesn't account for some of the seedier things they've done, however, such as degrading law enforcement and intelligence gatherers, which are supposed to be GOP sacred cows.

Second, they could be full on conspirators in Trump's embezzlement scheme. I view this as so exceedingly unlikely that I hesitate to even type it.

Third, Russia has compromised them by the same tactics that they used against the Dems, and have heavy threats against them if they don't play ball. I find this to be a very real possibility. Donna Brazile told Clinton that she was going to be asked about emails at a town hall. Shocking and scandalous! Can you imagine what type of nefarious shit McConnell says and does when he thinks no one is watching? What about Paul Ryan, a person who admits in public that the long game of tax reform is to cut entitlements, and that Ayn Rand is his hero. Those are the things he's not embarrassed to say. There's an almost 100% certainty that these crooked dealers have a lot they need to keep under wraps. Is it so embarrassing and profoundly immoral that they would sell out NatSec to keep it hidden? I don't think that's beyond reason.

Some RNC staffers have said on the record--and then "corrected" themselves--that their emails were hacked. But we've never seen that evidence. So either the corrections were legit, or there's an anvil hanging by fishing line above the entire GOP's head. Do we think that somehow a bunch of old ass rich dudes are so tech savvy that they're immune to state sponsored hacking? Not likely.





am_Unition  ·  2234 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Politifact took a look at the RNC breach.

But I agree, it doesn’t make much sense to me why almost the entire party (at the national level, at least) is committing a slow political suicide. We all know Mueller is going to find, like, so many dead hookers in Trump’s trunk. So why is anyone still hitching their wagon up to his? Short-term political gains at the expense of being on the wrong side of history? Maybe they honestly don’t care.

johnnyFive  ·  2234 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think you overestimate the likelihood that any of them will actually face consequences, but they don't. I think the Republican leadership was worried when Trump was elected, but once he made it through a few months without going to jail, it became clear that actual accountability is no longer a thing.

kleinbl00  ·  2234 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that if McConnell or Ryan were able to be blackmailed they would have been blackmailed long since. I've got my own pet conspiracies but I'm also with Benjamin "three can keep a secret if two are dead" Franklin. Really - what have we really learned about Trump that's surprising over the past 18 months? He's grab'embythepussy through and through, all we're learning is specifics.

The logical conclusion is that McConnell and Ryan know they're going to survive Trump.

Last time McConnell won he was up by 16 points. Ryan has never come within ten points of losing in eleven elections - he won his first election 81 to 19. If these guys can keep their constituents happy, they get to keep playing long after Trump is gone. Meanwhile they've been at it long enough to know that if they keep their noses clean in an election year they're golden.