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mk  ·  105 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I helped sell the false choice of war once. It's happening again.

Trump is missing the main ingredient: an attack that scares Americans. If he gets that excuse, we are fucked.




kleinbl00  ·  105 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think so. Iraq was a pariah state whose principle contribution to geopolitics had been violating sanctions for ten years. Iran has been cooperating with monitors, is participating in operations with Russia and Turkey and whose soft power network is second to none in the Middle East.

Iraq became Iraq because Hussein didn't correctly read the trade winds about invading Kuwait. Iran is Iran because they've been outreading us and outplaying us in the Middle East since 1977. I mean yeah ZOMG someone is calling for regime change in Iran - like the entire western world hasn't been doing that since the Ayatollah swept in.

Yeah history rhymes but an oil-rich military dictatorship under sanction for 12 years isn't the same as a complex theocracy just coming out from under them, even if they are both full of brown people who speak funny languages.

francopoli  ·  105 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    even if they are both full of brown people who speak funny languages.

And if we want to be technically accurate, the Persians are Caucasians, aka whitey. Farsi is a part of the Indo-European branch of the common tongue. Farsi is almost a mash of Turkish and Hindi in the way that English is a bastardization of German. Want to piss off a guy speaking Hebrew? Ask him if he is speaking Farsi. To me they sound very similar and I learned to not compare the two in certain company.

kleinbl00  ·  105 days ago  ·  link  ·  

As every Persian will gleefully tell you.

They're not wrong. And I'm hardly one to bandy about the ethnicity of others. But it's worth noting that Arabic culture and society has had its way with the Persians since the Sumerians.