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b_b  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Any opinions here on Kate Raworth's Doughnut Economy?

I don't get it. What kind of phase diagram makes sense without some sort of quantitative representation? Is this just a way of reminding ourselves that the things on the inside of the ring encroach on the things on the outside of the ring, and that they need to be balanced against one another? Or is there some secret sauce that's escaping me?





kleinbl00  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do not make me whip out the Pepsi Gravitational Field.

tacocat  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd like to see this

kleinbl00  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  
tacocat  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's enough people. Literally, most of us need to go and the remainders can eat grass or something and hide from feral dogs in burnt out Jettas.

kleinbl00  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Guardian article ends with

    And even if this is an elaborate 27-page long spoof, the horror is that it's believable. Across huge swaths of the world, scientific reasoning is regarded as decorative: a rhetorical stance, or a speech in a white coat from a 1950s B-movie. We live in a world that has indulged these buffoons for so long that they think they are heroes, while nerds are regarded with contempt. Our only hope is that after the robot wars, you will all starve, cold and in the rain, wearing leaves and eating mud.
veen  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I haven't read her book, but it has been recommended to me. One of the reasons I asked is because I'm also not sure if I get it. What I think she wants to say is that this:

    "Anyone who thinks that you can have infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is either a madman or an economist." - Sir David Attenborough

...is the big problem of our times, and that we need to curb growth so we can sustain the planet, but not destroy it so that we have our basic needs and rights met. E.g. have an economy that can provide everyone with clean drinking water, but where we don't ship mineral water across the globe because we can.

I thought it was interesting because unlike many discussions about the ails of capitalism, it seems to me a first step towards outlining an economically viable solution.

kleinbl00  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That was Ken Boulding, actually. Now that it's been misattributed via a Reddit thread, no one will ever know the truth ever again.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Kenneth_Boulding#1970s

veen  ·  2339 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I had a hunch...should've followed through.

- Abraham Lincoln