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Devac  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: November 8, 2017


Yup. That's all mine now! Now, all I have to do is to figure out how to play the drums. It's also a sweet thing that I paid for it by setting up (or rather repairing/rebuilding) a network for some accounting office a short bike ride away from my house. Almost a whole week of working evenings or nights, but it's worth it. Even paid for my (apparently needed) glasses and substantially added to my yet-to-take CCNA exam expense.


I lost. That's 7.5 out of 9 if I counted it correctly. It's not a bad game. Just a simple case of being bested. Still, in a tournament that's 11 rounds long, I think that I'm one point away from beating my personal best.


What would be your reaction if I were to correct your maths? Not something like calculating the tip at a restaurant, but while solving some differential equations or a bitchin' integral that you have to write sideways just to fit in your notebook. Your typical QFT problem. I now can see four basic options:

1. "I don't see it, explain how." (or "explain it to the class")

2. "Oh, right. Thanks!"

3. "Nuh-uh! Mathematica said so!"


That shitshow continued for almost six minutes! I literally got bored with guy's outrage and went on ignoring it after the minute mark, looking at the clock from time to time. Now I'm almost curious enough to try and find out why so many people are hostile toward me or outright snap.

It's my dashing good looks, isn't it? :P


I'm done with making slides and preliminary timing! Tomorrow it's going to be rehearsed with one of the post-docs and should be ready barring some general corrections it should be close to a final version. This time around I decided to talk about various ways we can deal with recursion. If the worst thing I had to deal with is "too many examples to choose from", then I either have too low standards or a great topic. Possibly both.

kleinbl00  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Now I'm almost curious enough to try and find out why so many people are hostile toward me or outright snap.

Try this on for size: You are rigorously focused on achievement and expansion of your knowledgebase. You are an eager and voracious learner. The majority of your attention seems to be given over towards pursuits that - and I don't know Poland - are atypical of the interests of most teenagers I've ever met.

I would hypothesize that your interests more closely align with what your professors and elders wish kids did than what kids actually do. It's entirely possible that you spend every Friday and Saturday night playing beer pong'n'date rape but I'm gonna go out on a limb and presume that you portray yourself fairly faithfully on here. There's a very real chance, then, that your existence - from their perspective - is as a constant reminder of the achievements and focus that they are actively eschewing.

I'm not going to tell you to change. However, if you spend a little while analyzing how they spend their days vs. how you spend your days, I suspect you'll detect a difference. More than that, I'll bet your reaction to cataloguing their days has a hint or two of "why would I waste my time with such infantile detritus?"

Fundamentally, you have a different value system than your peers. They... can detect this. If you would like to get along better with them, you have to adopt some of their values.

The drums are a great step in this direction.

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thank you. I guess that I should put another heap of introspection on top of what I already have. I'm going to assume that you are onto something and go from there.

    "why would I waste my time with such infantile detritus?"

I actually can't even say it with a straight face. Seriously. I tried. It's not what you meant, I know. I'll try to verify the comparisons anyway. It's already hard for me to find common topics and while I did go to a few parties or clubs, it's just not for me. It gets boring very easily.

kleinbl00  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sure it sounds even more ridiculous in Polish. ;-)

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It would be "Dlaczego miałbym tracić czas na te dziecinne bzdety?"

That's the best I could manage.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm gonna write that down somewhere on my body and read it whenever applicable.

I'm sure there's an IPA symbol for the throat giggle.

elizabeth  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pro tip: send that audio anytime anyone invites you to hang out anywhere. Guaranteed to work. That giggle at the end is just perfect!

Another Pro tip: If you get shitfaced, parties and clubs become very fun! More Wódki please!

Last Pro tip: Take all advice on the internet with a grain of salt ;)

But seriously, that audio made me giggle too.

rezzeJ  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Yup. That's all mine now! Now, all I have to do is to figure out how to play the drums.

If you want to do things 'properly', I recommend spending some time learning basic snare drum rudiments. And then have a go at some snare drum only pieces/exercises.

This is because when you move on to the full kit and start playing beats and fills, you're quite often just playing those same rudiments, but now over multiple drums and cymbals. As such, having that foundation in your muscle memory will stand you in good stead. It should help you develop with more consistency.

galen  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Adding on: please please please take lessons if it's at all possible. I taught myself for ~2 years before finding a real drum teacher and I had to do so much unlearning. Not to mention how much more quickly I progressed with my teacher's guidance: I can't afford lessons now and my skills have almost totally stagnated.


rezzeJ  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Agreed. I was lucky in that I started out by taking lessons straight away via my school. The teacher was a bit no-nonsense, but his actual teaching was invaluable.

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks! Both you and galen. I got some basic booklets with instructions that go with your advice. The teacher is already planned, but he'll be more available after the February. It's probably for the better and short of a miracle that I'm not behind with my uni work after this week.

That said, I'm all ears when it comes to further tips or learning resources.

cgod  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can't drum a bit, proficient in a few instruments but talentless at drums.

I used to hang out with a few great drummers and noticed some habits that seemed to drive their craft. All three of them would strip their kits down to snare, high hat and kick every few months. The stripped down intervals really seemed to focus their styles and skills. They all spent a time practicing on just snare and high hat as well.

weewooweewoo  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Devac please disregard my advice and follow this instead.

flagamuffin  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

wear earplugs

weewooweewoo  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh god, drums are the best. There's one drum beat that pretty much opens up the ability to play most beats once you get the hang of it.

It's the drumming equivalent of patting your head with one hand and rubbing your belly in circles with the other without them affecting each other:

(High hat)- x---x---x---x---x---x---x---x---

(snare)---- ----o-------o-------o-------o---

(kick drum) O-------O-O-----O-------O-O-----

(drum notation is my own because the alternative idea I had was to beat box it and upload it to soundcloud)

It just occurred to me that I've never seen you lose at chess before. The moves that gave you the most centipawn loss look so sensible at first glance. I need to start taking chess more seriously.

"How to Win Friends and Influence People" is pretty much a book of stories by the author about all the times he chose to not correct people when they were wrong. Not that you shouldn't correct people, but know that you can make a shit ton of money by writing a book about all the times you didn't correct people.

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll stick to the basics for a while. It's not like I have any related experience (piano and fucking around with a violin that I can't even find anywhere) so it's not like I can jump into it.

    lose at chess

Oh, man! I can go find my binder and get you some of my earlier games if you really want to see me lose. :P Remember how I once remarked about losing a game because I didn't know about en passant rule? A game before that I was winning, didn't notice that I have a guaranteed checkmate and exposed my king to a checkmate in one move. That's like managing to go from +15 to -15 in one move! If there's any reason why I'm a legend at my club, it's that game. :D

    not correcting

Overruled if that's a TA showing us the correct method and doing it wrong. Sorry, but as far as maths goes, there's no compromising. You can be objectively wrong and not pointing it out leads to at best doubling your work.

In other cases I try to avoid being "that know-it-all guy", but not always succeed. And I know how annoying it is. I'll give that book a read.

weewooweewoo  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My bad, I didn't mean to suggest you shouldn't have corrected him. I definitely would done so too- bl00 has the idea covered better.

Also, please don't read that book, I do not want you associating that book with me.

Wait- show me that game. Even if you didn't know en passant was a real thing, I find it hard to believe that you would have gotten yourself into a losing position without knowing that rule.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sweet drumset, man.

    Still, in a tournament that's 11 rounds long, I think that I'm one point away from beating my personal best.

That's amazing. The game of chess has always fascinated me, but I never had the patience or the attention span to do good with it. I know I'd break down quickly if I were to play for anything other than fun and friendly competition.

Congratulations on the results. You may feel like you're failing yourself, but the truth is, you're excelling magnificently. Keep your chin up, and good luck next time.

|Now I'm almost curious enough to try and find out why so many people are hostile toward me or outright snap.

Could it be because you're on the spectrum?

Devac  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks! I'm actually anxious as all fuck about performing at a tournament, but I want to get to the 1st category in about two years. You have to suck up the stress to do that. ;)

    Could it be because you're on the spectrum?

I'm (provably) not autistic and that's a tad uncalled for. Being good at maths doesn't make anyone different.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    that's a tad uncalled for

Because you think I'm "calling" you "out", as if it's some kind of an insult -- here at Hubski, of all places? No. I'm just trying to come up with a possible solution to a long-term problem. I'm no expert, but outside perspective could never hurt. I don't care if you're autistic, which you've just said you provably aren't -- but before I knew that, I thought you might.

Devac  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fair enough. Sorry, I'm just tired of dealing with people throwing it at me as an insult.

user-inactivated  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's like, the lamest insult ever. The other day, I got called a "limp wristed liberal." Now that's an insult. Got me hot under the collar like no other.

Devac  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Oh, no wonder that Devac finished the three-hours-long exam in forty minutes. It's not because he works on this shit for countless hours. It's because of autism. His messed up wiring makes it so much easier for him than it is for us, normal people."

That's what I hear when 'fellow students' call me autistic. It's not lame. It's insulting and substantiated solely on me being good at non-verbal stuff and bad with people.

user-inactivated  ·  440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry. I was trying to say "autistic" just isn't a very creative insult.

I know it sucks. If it helps though, it's just a sign you're kind of kicking ass, because your success makes them feel so vulnerable they have to make up dismissive conclusions about you to help their ego. Keep your head up man, shit like this tends to smooth out the older you get. People become nicer, you develop thicker skin, your perspective changes, etc.

If it helps, I still think you're awesome.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not to worry.

Just so you know: I may very well be as straightforward in suggesting solutions to the problems as you are. For future reference, consider that I might be helping you solve something before you think I attack you.

flagamuffin  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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lil  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Now I'm almost curious enough to try and find out why so many people are hostile toward me or outright snap.
Giving feedback is a delicate dance. People are automatically defensive. Did you first say, "Would you be willing to talk about this math problem here?" Give the person a choice.

or, "I'm seeing a problem here. Do you want to tell me why you did it that way?" or some other question. If the other person says yes, you have their buy in.

How did you begin that encounter?

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I raised my hand, was given voice and pointed out that he confused the i and j indices during summation. I can't recall the exact words, but I doubt that I added "you cretin" or something along those lines and forgot about it. Anyway, then the yelling started.

It sounds like pointing out a typo, but it yields entirely different results. And it's an honest mistake which can be extremely hard to trace back to the source. Half the reason why I identified it instantly is that I made it one time too many and pay extra attention to such cases.

lil  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I misunderstood. I thought you were the Teaching Assistant. Was it actually the TA that was yelling at you?

Devac  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yup. I'm still an undergrad. There are at least three semesters until I'll get to teach anything other than those high school outreach classes.

kleinbl00  ·  439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also misunderstood. The appropriate reaction to this situation is to raise your eyebrows, think "wow, what an asshole" and move on. Thin-skinned TAs are their own problem. You're effectively watching someone learn they don't want to teach.