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OftenBen  ·  169 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Something is Wrong on the Internet

    This is not content for humans. It is content for computers.

I just got a chill.

Considered abstractly, these are the dreams of the internet, right? Images and sounds and ideas created for it's own amusement at the conscious request of no human entity.

With some fudged definitions, that just might sound like a half-convincing sci-fi plot.




kleinbl00  ·  169 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It assigns intent where there isn't any, which is a lot of fiction as well - apophenia is one of the driving mechanisms of our conscious and subconscious thought processes so no wonder we see patterns where there are none.

Technically speaking, "dreams" are the wargaming of your subconscious. As the acetylcholine rinses away the neural connections that aren't strong enough to survive, it triggers an unconscious replay of all those that are and reinforces the memories and experiences that have value to us as organisms - positive, negative, fight, flight, love, hate, good bad. A dream is your unconscious psyche having a fire drill over something it thinks you'll have to deal with so that when it happens, you'll be ready.

A bunch of different connections firing, some washing away in oblivion, some strengthening through repeated views... I can see the similarities. What's different is that there's agency to the dream. There's a greater focus. The whole reason we're having this discussion is Alphabet refuses to be that greater focus. They don't want to be the curator. As such there's a neurobiological similarity but it is not the dreams of a conscious thing. It is the twitches of neurons without a greater brain.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  168 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    A dream is your unconscious psyche having a fire drill over something it thinks you'll have to deal with so that when it happens, you'll be ready.

This statement makes clear the intents of some dreams and make others' entirely less clear.

OftenBen  ·  169 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    It is the twitches of neurons without a greater brain.

That's the part that freaks me out though. The fundamental architecture is there. It doesn't have a purpose, but I keep feeling the word "YET" clutching to the end of that statement.

I wonder what the electrical signals of the first proto-nerve cells looked like in early multi-cellular organisms.

kleinbl00  ·  169 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Intelligence does not spontaneously arise, particularly on networks that are way simpler than the human brain. But yeah, from a storytelling standpoint it's an easy leap to make.

OftenBen  ·  169 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Intelligence does not spontaneously arise,

I believe this part is still subject to hot debate, among those who study such things.

But yeah, it's a narrative convenience exploited at least as far back as Heinlein.