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kleinbl00  ·  2552 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: God in the machine: my strange journey into transhumanism

Jaron Lanier on "cybernetic totalism" in 2000

    Do Dawkins, Dennett, and others in their camp see some flaw in logic that insulates their thinking from the eschatological implications? The primary candidate for such a flaw as I see it is that cyber-armageddonists have confused ideal computers with real computers, which behave differently.

Worthy of note: According to Kurzweil in 2000, the Singularity is only three years away.





b_b  ·  2552 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've heard it on good authority (hearsay, multiple layers of human filtering, etc.) that Dennett doesn't really know how to use computers. I choose to believe this because I find it hilarious.

veen  ·  2552 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've been considering reading Lanier's You Are Not a Gadget, do you happen to have an opinion on that book?

kleinbl00  ·  2552 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have plenty of them, in fact.

I can honestly say that when I first read it, I disagreed with virtually every point he made. Nonetheless, I keep referring back to it. I think he's wrong about a lot of stuff, but I also think his perspective is well-considered, insightful and exists as a synthesis of a number of valuable areas of study.

It's well worth the read.