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blackbootz  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: February 15, 2017

What's the best way people keep track of their thoughts and obligations? A physical to-do list? An app? My system is showing strain and I have a lot of psychic weight I'd like to unload. I'm all ears and eyes to your recommendations.

Tomorrow marks the first day of the spring soccer season for the men's club team at my school. I can't wait.

lil  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    What's the best way people keep track of their thoughts and obligations?
A steno pad.

The main thing is to keep the obligations in one place, wherever that place is. You get in trouble if you have an app, an electronic notepad, a steno pad, a teeny tiny notebook, and a journal.

But thoughts! Thoughts - that's something else. Keep your thoughts somewhere safe so you can find them later.

I don't know about you millenials, but writing things out tends to lighten that psychic weight for many people.

blackbootz  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This really resonates with me. I have too many disparate places for stuff. Like three apps and a physical pad. The physical pad is for redundancy because I don't trust my system and can't relax unless everything is in one place in front of me.

Thanks Lil, I'll start condensing.

OftenBen  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Keep your thoughts somewhere safe so you can find them later.

I like this.

Devac  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A to-do list made in Org. It's pretty cool, although I don't know if that's something I could recommend if you don't know (or aren't willing to learn) about the Emacs text editor.

thundara  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Org is great! I've been using it for several years now:

Sadly, it a massive pita to interface with other platforms. I have like 4 intermediate steps to get scheduled items to show up on my phone, and even then it drops birthdays events with non-standard time ranges =/

Devac  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What are those steps? What's your setup?

thundara  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Directory tree of .org files, version controlled with automatic commits every hour. by cron. .ical snapshots are created every hour using (org-icalendar-combine-agenda-files) and exported to a location accessible by private URL. Then google / windows live consume that URL to create calendars that show notifications on my phone / windows lock screen.

It's a mess tbh.

blackbootz  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my goodness. Yea, the screenshot alone has me balking. Formatting text in hubski is the extent of my coding skills. That's only half a joke. But it looks cool! Props to you.

Devac  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not really a coding skill, more like learning buffed syntax similar to HTML or Markup. Anyway, here is a screenshot of the source:

And here is the out result in HTML:

Again, I'm not trying to push it on you, but it's one of those tools that help a lot once you'll spend some time learning them. TODO lists are actually only one of the features; I have been using Org to write campaign notes for my RPG games, manuals for some of my programs and some worksheets for my tutoring sessions as those are actually easier to make in Org than in pure LaTeX.

But it would seem that there are quite a few people using Org on Hubski. I (and likely others) can help you if needed.

ButterflyEffect  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm a much bigger fan of physical lists for things that aren't mundane, such as grocery lists, doing laundry, things of that nature. For bigger ticket items, obligations involving others, goals, and other thoughts I'm a fan of keeping a journal in something like a Moleskin and using something like a white board for physical to-do. The tangible nature of writing and having to put in that thought creates a stronger connection to whatever that thought or obligation is, and allows me to better digest it bit-by-bit.

blackbootz  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Even though I rarely lose things these days (knock on wood), I feel nervous having everything in one place that's not backed up. That said, I make so many physical lists on these 7x3 inch legal pads that I have a zipper envelope to carry them all around. I love writing and indenting and making arrows and crossing things out.

But it'd kill me if I lost it midway through the semester.

veen  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I use Todoist for anything with a deadline or intended end date, and Google Keep for my notes 'n stuff. Wunderlist is also great for lists.

blackbootz  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How's Google Keep? Is it easy to organize with? I used an early version a few years ago and I didn't take to it. But I'm open to trying again. I use simplenote (nvALT on my mac desktop) and it's too basic. A scrolling list down the lefthand side of the program without a good way to organize further.

veen  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

They added a bunch of features since then. You can now change the color of notes, add labels to them or 'sticky' them, which means they'll stay at the top. It's also possible to draw now in the app. You can also insta-keep web pages with the browser plugin. It can also use pictures, so you can just snap a picture of whatever you want to remember or keep. And you can switch between having checkbox or not. All features that I don't use regularly, but they're there when I need them and make it a good tool to use for me.

kleinbl00  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Rather than recommend an app or a thing, can I recommend a book?

GTD is a cult that has waned in popularity but still has zealous proponents that ascribe far too many powers to it but there's a kernel of truth to it that can be gleaned by reading the book in an afternoon. The trick isn't in finding the best way to track your obligations, the trick is in finding the best way to complete your obligations and what works for someone else may not work for you.

For me, the simple, kitschy stuff really does work - having a label maker makes me more organized. Having a file with 12 months in it gives me power over my receipts. Etc.

veen  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

blackbootz The key insight that I think kb refers to and that I got out of GTD is that it is essential to develop some kind of system first and foremost. Whatever site / app / book you use should fit that system best.

For example, my approach to email is that I make a Todoist to-do out of everything that asks me to do something. I archive all the other emails and only archive emails with actionable items once I did that task. Simple system + Gmail + Todoist = clean inbox. Might be a good idea to reflect on where your obligations come from and what systematic way you can tackle them - e.g., when you get a text with something to do, where does that thing go?

blackbootz  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You know I hate books :p

So I actually own a copy. The top review in Amazon nailed the issue on the head for me: The book is 80% filler. Page after page of rehashing detracted from my motivation to finish it when I picked it up last year. But I'm a lot more motivated to glean its lessons now that I'm roughly 10 times busier. I'll crack it open.

kleinbl00  ·  459 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I never finished it. I mean, it's not exactly a three-act book. I grabbed what I needed out of it and moved on. I suggest you do the same.

kantos  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Google Keep Widget on my phone for the hour to hour tasks, and a physical planner for bigger events and class dues dates. Make sure to cross check both. :)

keifermiller  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I used to be with Devac in the Org-Mode camp, but that's slowly become non-viable as I use the computer less and less for that sort of thing.

Now I've got a B5 spiral notebook that I use for my tasks, and a calendar if it effects both of us.

nowaypablo  ·  460 days ago  ·  link  ·  

bigass, long notepad paper post-it note thing I stick over my desk. Writing will always be better than an app, because it's right there in front of your face wherever you work and you can do things like make your "To-Do List" into "Fucking Shit to do Today:"