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kleinbl00  ·  2642 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: President Trump has officially withdrawn the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership

Dude it's so gone. C'mon. Be realistic. We've got a bill introduced into Congress to withdraw from the United Nations.





user-inactivated  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not gone until it's gone. What happened to all of those Tech companies Trump wants to consult with? Who's to say they won't try and help discourage the passing of anti-Net Neutrality rules?

As for the UN Bill? That's been introduced multiple times in the past and it has always died in committee, never even getting a chance to see a vote. The United States has veto power on the UNSC. Giving that up would be so monumentally stupid, I don't think even this congress would do it.

kleinbl00  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh, I don't either. But for the next little while, at least, the lunatics are running the asylum.

user-inactivated  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    But for the next little while, at least, the lunatics are running the asylum.

And they are going hog-fucking-wild. Remember during the election when so many crazy things happened in a week that you couldn't keep track of it all? That's what it feels like right now, with this new administration. I posted three articles this morning about stuff that made me angry and I was gonna post more but stopped only because Dala asked me to. She said, and I quote, "You're giving me a stomach ache."

coffeesp00ns  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Remember during the election when so many crazy things happened in a week that you couldn't keep track of it all? That's what it feels like right now, with this new administration. I posted three articles this morning about stuff that made me angry and I was gonna post more but stopped only because Dala asked me to. She said, and I quote, "You're giving me a stomach ache."

that's the strategy. make you exhausted, make you immobile, sick, so you can't do anything.Hit you again and again so that you don't have time to process all of the awful things that are happening to you.

Unfortunately, it's also how they win.

OftenBen  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's much much easier to generate noise than signal.

That's how radar jamming works.

coffeesp00ns  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

yep. Further reading on the subject

    Remember: the president is a businessman — a self-declared specialist in grinding down opponents, a man with a record of withholding payment from counterparties, reneging on commitments, then inviting them to sue if they aren't happy. The only rules are his rules.

- How do you negotiate a trade agreement with a president for whom facts don't matter?: Neil Macdonald

snoodog  ·  2642 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The UN has been a sacred cow for too damn long a healthy debate about if its actually doing what its supposed to be and if its effective would be nice. Complete withdraw is probably premature and unwise but I do think the UN should undergo some scrutiny from both US and abroad.

user-inactivated  ·  2641 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Except we have these conversations all the time (just not on Hubski). Depending on who you talk to, the UN runs the whole gamut from being well respected to being held in utter contempt. Furthermore, the UN does a lot of different shit. Some more effective than others. Wanna joke about non-binding resolutions? Most people will joke with you. Wanna tall shit about UNESCO or The World Food Program? Prepare yourself for a hearty debate, because those programs have some staunch defenders.