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jadedog  ·  2648 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Forget protesting Trump, protest those around him

This is the only actionable piece in your article.

    The only thing we can do is try to keep as much power out of his hands as possible.

How are you proposing to do that?

Some articles on narcissism and leadership. It would be unsurprising if Trump is a narcissist. Many leaders are. It would be equally unsurprising if those around him are narcissists as well. According to some, it takes a narcissist to run for the office of the President of the US.

Narcissists Tend to Become Leaders from Live Science

    "Many people have observed that it takes a narcissistic person to run for president of the United States," Brunell said. "I would be surprised if any of the candidates who have run weren’t higher than average in narcissism."

Narcissism and Leadership in Psychology Today

    Narcissists have a knack for getting into positions of power and authority (although they likely become MORE narcissistic once they are in power). Moreover, some of these narcissists are effective leaders - some are terribly effective (and evil)

Narcissistic Leaders: The Incredible Pros, the Inevitable Cons in Harvard Business Review

    The times have changed, and we’ve learned a lot about the dangers of overreliance on big personalities, but that doesn’t mean narcissism can’t be a useful leadership trait. There’s certainly a dark side to narcissism—narcissists, Freud told us, are emotionally isolated and highly distrustful. They’re usually poor listeners and lack empathy. Perceived threats can trigger rage. The challenge today—as Maccoby understood it to be four years ago—is to take advantage of their strengths while tempering their weaknesses.




johnnyFive  ·  2648 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    How are you proposing to do that?

As I said, make sure that we influence those around him as much as possible. I agree that many of his inner circle may be narcissists themselves, or are at least willing to put personal power over anything else (since Trump pretty clearly is going for loyalty over ability).

Congress should be the primary focus. This can apparently still work, if the bruhaha over their trying to gut their own ethics office is any indication. Meanwhile, we have to stop feeding the Troll in Chief. Keep those turnout numbers low, and make it clear to anyone who is connected to reality that he doesn't have the support of the country as a whole. The abysmal approval ratings and low inauguration turnout are a good start.

But I would love to see a protest closer to the Capitol, where not a single sign mentions Trump. I can't think of a better rebuke for someone like him. Don't hate him, make him totally irrelevant.

jadedog  ·  2648 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    As I said, make sure that we influence those around him as much as possible.

When you say "we", who does that refer to?

How exactly would those people you're including in the "we" influence people around the President of the United States?

In the women's march thread, you say this:

    Pretty much this. I wouldn't be half as worried about this if there were a viable opposition.

If the people in the women's march are not viable opposition and are not part of your "we", who are you including in your "we" and what exactly are you asking those people to do?

johnnyFive  ·  2647 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In that other comment, I was referring to a viable opposition party, i.e. one that would actually fight against what the Republicans can do with more than bromides and requests not to be shellacked too badly in the next election.

As I said elsewhere, we need to target Congress as much as possible. Forget Trump, the less he's even talked about the better. He craves attention, and will do anything to get it. We should deny it to him, and instead make every single person in Congress know that we're watching them very closely, and are prepared to do whatever it takes to protect ourselves from alt-right predation. That should include everything from letter-writing and calling to showing up at their local (or DC) offices in person, protesting their events, and doing as much as possible to support their opponents.