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Rejuvenation  ·  2653 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: January 18, 2017

1. No, I don't believe in any plan. I believe in action and through it we can build our future.

2. May be due to sudden change in belief in stopped meditating, but meditation can be done without need of believing in God, such as focussing on breath, Yoga, and it has benefits mental and physical.

4. Thanks for letting me know about #talkreligion, i would love to be part of that :)

5. You have very nicely quoted Sartre,Thanks for that.

Reminds me Nietzsche; "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." and “The Obstacle Is The Way: The Timeless Art of Turning Trials Into Triumph” by Ryan Holiday, summarized as it is our choice on how to act.

6. You have well questioned me on whether without God world will be selfish, in short you have questioned my faith on Humanity,Thanks, so I partially take back my words back, and quoting Gandhi here:

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

And Atheists can be wonderful people too=> Albert Einstein, and Stephen Hawkings.

So, for minority fear of God will be required, and for major section I uphold morality of Humanity.





user-inactivated  ·  2653 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    but meditation can be done without need of believing in God

That's what I've been thinking. There's a lot of talk about meditation in the secular context, and a lot of atheists have told me how helpful meditation is and that I should try it, to deal with stress and to explore myself deeper.

    You have well questioned me on whether without God world will be selfish, in short you have questioned my faith on Humanity

I'd like to point out that I didn't question your faith in humanity: I was merely asking you about your beliefs. That is to say, I didn't mean to criticize you in any way: I was curious about your views on this subject.

Stephen Fry - and I can't for the life of me find the source again - once said that it is appalling that the Christian teaching is that there must be God for people to behave in a morally positive way. He said that if we are to go by this religion's line of thought that people prior to Christianity's birth were all rapists and burglars who suddenly came to realize "Oh, well, that is wrong", which, Fry argues, is not true. I will try looking for the source later, because it's a fascinating thought and I can't just let it go. It also implies that atheistic human beings can not act moral without some sort of a supervision, which isn't true, an example being myself having a civilized, polite and overall decent conversation about belief on a forum filled with such people, each of different beliefs.

Stephen Fry has long been an opponent of Catholic church in particular and, it seems, Christianity in general, so you might want to be careful listening to him talk about those subjects. He calls himself a humanist, which sounds like something exactly down your lane, so you might want to research that further.

    So, for minority fear of God will be required

I wonder how you see that working. Whom does this minority consist of, and why do they require fear of God to put them into their senses?