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jadedog  ·  2656 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: With the next four years being a reality free zone, you need to learn up on Poe's Law.

About to? Hasn't it been going on for the last month?

Just seconds ago, I read a comment about Trump's twitter feed. Was it real or a parody? I don't know.

Every post about Trump is barely substantiated or its evidence is an article that is unsubstantiated and that may or may not be a parody. I've seen people arguing with articles that read like parodies to me.

Where do we find this proven accurate and true information? Generally, you'd have to trust the source. When all sources can't be trusted to not be satirizing, that leaves fewer and fewer ways to find this slowly evaporating proven accurate and true information.

Edit: More and more, I'm seeing more of the Law of the Echo Chamber.

    "If you feel comfortable enough to post an opinion of any importance on any given Internet site, you are most likely delivering that opinion to people who already agree with you."




user-inactivated  ·  2655 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The longer you spend on the internet the more likely you end up in a filter bubble. Unless you actively fight for a diversity of thought, you will end up in an echo chamber and if you stay there long enough you won't be able to function out in meatspace.

    Was it real or a parody?

Yes.

jadedog  ·  2654 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Filter bubbles happen in meatspace as well. In real life, they're almost inevitable because the people you see and listen to every day become your world. Since you're limited by proximity and geography in real life, it can be a pretty small circumference.

Taking a high-profile example, I felt like President Obama was relatable when he was first elected. The stories and anecdotes he told were stories of an average guy who was embarking on a big journey. As I watch the exit interviews with the President and his wife, they talk about friendships with Beyonce and Oprah and of their time sleeping in Buckingham Palace, it's hard to relate. Now Michelle's big wish is to open a window, something most people can't relate to.

It's inevitable though. As they interact with their circle of people who frequent the White House, they take on the values, problems and attitudes of people with whom they speak.

Online, it's a tiny bit different because the filter bubble is fueled by likes. I just watched a video about some guy describing how people change their lives so they can post pictures to Facebook and Instagram to gain likes. That becomes a self-perpetuating filter bubble, but one fueled by relative strangers.

Another video I found on Reddit about how social media is fueled by likes.

I don't have a Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or Snapchat account. I'm not conversant about how it works except by watching those videos.

I also think it depends on what kind of person you are. If you like to fit in, you'll more easily become a part of a filter bubble. That seems voluntary though.

jadedog  ·  2651 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Adding to my point that everyone is subject to filter bubbles, even people in meat space,, I just saw this interview with Barack Obama on why he favors term limits. He notes that it's inevitable to lose touch with the people on the ground when you're the President of the United States. He even uses the word "bubble" to explain what happens and how he was surprised by Trump's win because he couldn't see what was happening on the ground.

President Obama: I Didn’t Think Donald Trump Would Win Because I Was in ‘The Bubble’

Edit: When he said in his farewell speech, if you're tired of arguing with people about politics on the internet, argue with one in real life, I thought it was a cute line. But I also thought it was a bit disingenuous. People argue about politics on the internet because arguing about politics in their real lives can make their lives a lot more complicated and unpleasant.

johnnyFive  ·  2650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    People argue about politics on the internet because arguing about politics in their real lives can make their lives a lot more complicated and unpleasant.

This is true, but I think is a symptom of the broader problem of how much of our personal identity get wrapped up in political positions.