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user-inactivated  ·  2642 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Barack Obama Wasn’t Nearly As Tough on Israel as Republican Presidents

I read another take on the resolution as a shot at Trump, as well. The Obama's abstaining on the resolution has been all the rage to talk about at Shabbat dinner gatherings - Shul (another word for temple/synagogue, pronounced sh-ool) too, I'm sure.

Even with my brothers housemate (also Jewish) when he was over last night. The consensus last night was that this administration is purely political allies. The aid is clear in that. The U.S. has always been against settlements, the reasoning is sound in my eyes. At the Shabbat gathering and around, the action taken (or lack of) is a slap in the face no matter how you spin it to fellow Jews granted the diction of the document. Another interesting point brought up last night was how party lines may shift within the Jewish community. I've heard more family and friends say they ended up voting for Trump for so many reasons and Israel being one of them (seeing Hillary as Obama's heir-apparent at the time and the more amiable relationship with Bibi from Trump).

I'd be very interested to read anything Cumol has to say, if willing.





Cumol  ·  2642 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am currently visiting Israel and had a chance to talk to some people about the recent U.N. move.

The majority of Jews I talked to (a strong bias towards left wing) see this decision as something very important and necessary. The public however reacted rather negative. This is (in my opinion) due to the strong control of the right-wing on the media. Israeli media was basically blasting into all directions that this was an anti-israeli step and calling it a "revenge move" of Obama towards Netanyahu due to his actions such as speaking in front of congress without asking Obama before doings so in May 2015.

I have a similar view as the left-wing in Israel and think it was very important. However, it is way too late. This could have been done a long time ago, like the veto the US put on this 2011 UN security council draft. Many Israelis believe that Trump is going to be a much better supporter to Israel, something that I actually fear. His choice for US ambassador in Israel is basically a super right wing guy that makes Netanyahu look like a leftist in comparison or his choice for Special International Negotiations is very worry-some.

Scary, it will become.

user-inactivated  ·  2637 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Israeli media was basically blasting into all directions that this was an anti-israeli step and calling it a "revenge move" of Obama towards Netanyahu due to his actions such as speaking in front of congress without asking Obama before doings so in May 2015.

I had alluded to this portion of your comment a morning or two after back in my brother's place. Oddly enough (mere peons we may be), no one in the house had considered this. Definitely one way to take the move.

Nonetheless, from what I've gathered, I agree on the delayed nature of the whole situation. On the side of Trump's choice in who goes into his administration, I think at least half of America or more is troubled as well.