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galen  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Long, Slow Death of Religion

This all seems fine, but I'm struggling to see anything particularly new and insightful here. The thesis seems to be that people aren't religious anymore, and it's because they don't believe the claims that religions make. Like, yeah? No shit?





user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's Counterpunch, the point is political. Fewer religious people means fewer cultural conservatives means a weaker right wing in America.

jadedog  ·  2666 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This sort of implies that the trend toward the non-religious only goes one way. A couple decades back, the percentage of religious grew.

Uncertainty and instability in the country at the time drove some people back to religion. These statistics were from the past. It doesn't forecast a trend for the future.

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

duck dynasty

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Indeed, and for a time Christianity was a civilizing force in the hinterlands. My parents were Methodists, I grew up hearing stories about circuit riders. If it was guys like that people were listening to I doubt those of us who aren't religious would care one way or the other about religion. No one cares about you pursuing your idea of the good so long as you aren't imposing it on the rest of us. The American Taliban are the majority now, though, and they most certainly do try to impose it on the rest of us. America would be better off without them.

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

saying "the american taliban" without irony (or with, even) has always struck me as an imposition, but what do i know

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I could say "authoritarian right-wing theocrats" if you prefer, but "the American Taliban" is pithier.

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

as long as there is pith

OftenBen  ·  2669 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I thought we were saying 'Y'al Qaeda' now, that had a fun ring to it.

user-inactivated  ·  2669 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm more a fan of "Vanilla ISIS".

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The American Taliban are the majority now, though, and they most certainly do try to impose it on the rest of us.

Didn't Clinton defeat Trump by almost 3 million popular votes? Don't you think there were quite a bit more people who also disagree with Trump and neo-conservative Republicans but didn't vote for one reason or another? Do you really think demographic data would back up your statement, or do you think that "The American Taliban," happens to be a very powerful minority that has found a way to game the system through shit like propoganda and oh, I dunno, gerrymandering?

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not a majority of the population, to be sure, and that's not what I meant, but a majority of the faithful? Yes, I think so.

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Motherucker. It's past my bedtime and now you make me want go look up numbers and shit to see who's right here. Damn you. ;)

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For what it's worth, I'd prefer to be wrong on this one.

galen  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So is that supposed to be the new insightful part? Because that also seems like kind of a truism.

user-inactivated  ·  2670 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Kind of agree with galen here. It's a pretty shallow article all around and I didn't gather that that was the point the author was trying to make.