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user-inactivated  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pro-Gun Activist Killed While Showing a Kid How to Use a Gun - The Portland Press Herald

no they don't

the statistics show me that





cgod  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unfortunately most Americans don't pay a lot of attention to statistics, but they do love an anecdote. This is a tragedy (despite the shitty snarky comments other people have posted). People off good will and honest intention who own guns need to realize that this kind of thing is a possibility, statistics don't convey tragedy very well.

user-inactivated  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

sure but the people who need to realize etc are, lo and behold, not the people reading these stories. the people reading these stories are... i'm not sure what they are/

OftenBen  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    sure but the people who need to realize etc are, lo and behold, not the people reading these stories.

Even if they were, the response would be 'Well, I'd never be so stupid as to give a (Blank) year old a loaded weapon without knowing that they would handle it responsibly.'

Nobody thinks it will happen to them because they are better/smarter/blessed/etc.

steve  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

#blessed

cgod  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A guy I know owned a lot of guns. After one of the mass shootings he got all reflective about guns and society. He knew that he liked his guns but after thinking hard about the cost of guns to our world and mostly to kids he decided that he couldn't in good conscious own guns anymore.

He cut up all his guns and welded them together into a big tree sculpture. Local public TV did a segment on him but I can't seem to find it.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't own guns but they should be made aware of the possible consequences of gun ownership. They should stop to think about leaving their purse in reach of their toddler if they are packing.

You seem dead set on the idea that gun owners can in anyway effectively weigh risks or change their behavior when their ideas are challenged. I don't believe that is true. We need these types of stories if we are going to live in a society that has this many guns around.

user-inactivated  ·  2644 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You seem dead set on the idea that gun owners can in anyway effectively weigh risks or change their behavior when their ideas are challenged.

this seems like a positive optimistic idea and so far in this thread i have been unfailingly negative so i dunno where you got that from

or wait maybe you meant "can't"

someguyfromcanada  ·  2645 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Its a quick way out and suicide rates, by gun, go up in cities with higher gun ownership.

This Harvard study confirms that.

Guns do not cause suicide, People cause suicide. I would guess that accessibility for anything correlates with use in many circumstances. So if a gun is handy then it is a quick and easy way out.