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cgod  ·  2672 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: FiveSplaining: Firearms (Interest Measuring)

Lol, not my problem, I really couldn't give a shit if you want to pretend your dangerous hobby isn't.

If you wanted to know the consequences of owning a gun you would know it by now, no citation needed.

Every gun owner I know is the Donald Trump of gun ownership until the day they aren't.

Too many people in my family have got a little sad or a little mad one day and that was that. If we were a morose clan we'd have 3 empty seats each thanksgiving.





johnnyFive  ·  2672 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right, it's not. But thanks for clarifying that you're just interested in self-righteousness rather than actually talking about the issue. Will save me some time.

cgod  ·  2671 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hmmmm... Part two

I really come off as an insufferable prick there.

As if I haven't engaged in risky behaviors (mostly unprotected sex and drug use).

It's absolutely fine to engage in risky behaviors and I sincerely hope most gun owners enjoy their guns.

I'm an old married guy now and unprotected sex isn't' really a big issue. It's going to be no issue at all after Tuesday when I'm going to get my business snipped but I still occasionally do some heavy drugs. I enjoy them, rarely, but I also acknowledged that their use entails some degree of risk.

Many gun owners say they want guns for protection but in now way acknowledge that owning guns also carries a degree of danger.

I'm not against people owning guns or engaging in behavior that increases their risk, I just loath the Rambo bullshit that pretends owning a gun is safer than not owning one.

Only seeing one side of the story, or engaging one sided cost benefit analysis is a fucking disease in America.

For every crime that is prevented with a gun they are several avoidable tragedies. To maintain otherwise is to be full of shit.

cgod  ·  2671 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hmmm...

In what way am I being self-righteous?

I honestly don't know how. Maybe self-righteous doesn't mean what you think it does?

I'm probably just a nudge left of the NRA in my opinions on gun laws but I'll stick to my guns that most gun owners aren't making any kind of accurate assessment on the dangers of gun ownership.

They are like people who own pools who refuse to acknowledge that the ownership of such pools increases the likelihood of someone they intimately know drowning.

Like ecib said, feeling safe and being safe are two different things.

Forgive me if I'm going to blow off Hubski's resident gunsplainer for citations of information that is a google search away if he gave a shit. I don't expect a reasonable cost benefit analysis of a guy who's analysis of risk is

    It's also stupid from a self-defense standpoint, since someone who wants to start stuff is going to target the open-carrier first,
otherwise known as the gun owners wet dream, or an event so unlikely it's asymptotic with zero.

I've known two maybe three gun owners who wouldn't have made the situation more dangerous last time I was the victim of a gun crime. They go to the range once a month, get special training one to two times a year and have a mind and skill set that has primed them to unhesitatingly shoot a man to death. Most gun owners are jerking off in gun grease imagining the day they are going to save the day but are in now real way prepared to do so.

Maybe your the kind of guy who goes to the range and gets training, keeps the key to the gun safe out of harms reach, will never blow your head off during a dark night of the soul, isn't going to get spooked and blow away his wife or kid when they go bump in the night and has an even enough demeanor that he would never pull his gun out for another reason than to kill someone who presented a direct threat to his life. If so good on you. Most people think they are that guy, and enough gun owners aren't that owning a gun can be a dangerous proposition.