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mk  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: It's election day America!

Trying to get a regional transit authority approved over here.

Ann Arbor <> DTW <> Detroit; shut up and tax me already.





b_b  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think people outside of Detroit can appreciate how significant this is that it's even on the ballot. Behind Trump being defeated, it's the thing I care about most this year. Polling wasn't very widespread on this issue, so no one really knows what the people think about it. I have seen a lot more pro signs (I don't think there's an organized opposition), but "higher taxes" speaks for itself too often to many voters. I'm optimistic though. I will cry with joy the first day I get to ride a transport system to work.

rob05c  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can trump top that. We're trying to get a Single Payer System here.

steve  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was really torn on this one... I let it sneak up on me - and was under-informed on this issue. I'll be super interested to see how that one turns out.

rob05c  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can respect someone who honestly doesn't believe it will work. But I think they're wrong. Conservatives regularly make the argument "it just won't work in the US, we're too big" (despite countries like Sweden having vast swathes of frozen wasteland). But you know what? Colorado is about the size of any given European country, and with a strong tech economy. I want to see what happens. Worst case scenario, we can repeal it if it explodes, and the only thing lost is some spending money from a few well-to-do middle class people like myself who can spare it.

But, practicality notwithstanding, as a Christian, I'll almost always vote for social things. I believe Jesus' #1 physical ministry was to the poor. I don't have to tell you, there are countless verses in both the Old and New Testaments commanding helping the poor. And some pretty dire consequences for not doing it in Matthew 25.

When I lived in Texas, most of the Conservative Christians I knew used the argument, "It's not the government's job, it's the church's job." You know what? The church isn't doing its job. And at the end of the day, I don't care who does it, as long as it gets done.

steve  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The church isn't doing its job. And at the end of the day, I don't care who does it, as long as it gets done.

amen.

I've switched sides - to being SUPER in favor of a single payer system. I was just embarrassingly uninformed about the current initiative. I was scrambling last night to get educated about it. Frankly - I was surprised by how little I had heard of it - nothing on CPR, nothing from my employer, no neighborhood signs.... just nothing. Weird. Anyway - shame on me for not catching it sooner. I'm still happy with the way I voted - but don't like being that uninformed with a pen in hand and ballot in front of me.

WanderingEng  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I voted yes on our local school referendum. Yes for them to be allowed more funding. I don't have kids, but how could I say no?

steve  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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user-inactivated  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How'd your public transport bill do?

mk  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It looks close, and not good. Theme for the night. :/

user-inactivated  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sorry.

mk  ·  2778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No worries. We'll survive.