Which is news. As an aside, I don't know why I'm over in that subreddit so much. I guess reading wild conjectures and childish arguments is like eating junk food for breakfast. It's dumb, unhealthy, and makes me feel ashamed, but sometimes I just can't stop myself.
Speaking as a two-time former moderator of /r/politics, you have absolutely nothing to gain from spending time in /r/politics.
I got there two days before they decided to ban pretty much everybody for having, like, opinions. Then they decided to let Mother Jones back in, but to explicitly ban anything from Kevin Drum because he was a, and I quote, "spammer." Why? Because entitled twenty-somethings make their own rules and Reddit rewards them for it.
Spending time in /r/politics will actually make you stupider.
- Spending time in /r/politics will actually make you stupider.
I think it's an unhealthy place to be, full of sinister gossip and crazy conjecture. I think the only reason I'm drawn to it is because a lot of interesting current events do get posted there and everyone seems to have an opinion on something.
Like a lot of our thinking patterns, it's such a strong influence because it's easy to overlook or miss altogether.
That and the mental equivalent of junk food or other bad habits we know are bad for us but they set our brain's reward centres briefly incandescent.
Hillary and Trump are both 70, FYI. Obama just turned 55. No matter who gets elected, their health is going to be an issue their whole term. The age of the candidates is also why I am predicting that the winner of this election will be a one-term president.
edit Hillary is 68. Point stands, that is old for someone to run and serve as President.
Not a clue. All I know about Kaine is that he seems like a 1950's Eisenhower Republican. He's left of our current center, hates the Citizen's United ruling, likes Dodd-Frank and otherwise seems like a moderate.
I'd hate as hell to be him of something happens to the first woman President and he has to take over.
I don't know how big of a deal it is. Depending on who's talking it's either just a mild moment or she has one foot in the grave. Of all the things I see on there, day in and out, I thought this was particularly interesting, because everyone seems to be going nuts talking about something that doesn't strike me as a big deal. Like most of the internet, it's a strange place.
- I don't know how big of a deal it is.
I'm telling you people, he's gonna win. I really, really hope I'm wrong. I know the electoral math says otherwise but all it will take is one HC fainting, one HC mistake during a debate.
Be scared, be very scared.
Edit: it's pneumonia. That's no joke:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/12/pneumonia_vs_the_elderly.html
I mean, she's near 70, but if she's The President then she'll literally have the best doctors available. Everyone was worried about McCain in 2008 and he's still doing alright for the most part. To add, Trump is pretty much the same age, so he's just as big of a risk, even if I think it is overblown.
As for him winning the presidency, I think it's slim. I think there are more than enough good hearted Americans to keep that from happening. That said, if he does win, I think it's important we all start trying to be neighborly as fuxk towards each other, cause it's going to be a long four years.
To be clear, I'm not worried (given the info we have) about her health or ability to carry out her job. It's the optics of it all. It's pretty much Christmas morning for Trump right now. As soon as he saw her fall like that he got the biggest boner ever. Trust me.
He will make hay.
I think you're overestimating the number of people who would ever, under any circumstance up to and including the alternative being a kitten in a tiny power suit, vote for Donald Trump. The only way he wins is if everyone else is so demoralized they don't bother showing up at the polls, and this doesn't accomplish that because "interchangeable disappointing President dies to be replaced by interchangeable disappointing Vice President" is still the expected "more of the same", which is a much better scenario than "President Fascist Cheeto."
That's one interpretation.
I was just calling back to the popularity of the Giant Meteor 2016 meme after it became obvious that the final battle was Clinton v. Trump.
I'd rather vote for the kitten in a power suit than the meteor, but I think they make a powerful ticket when you combine them. The softness of the kitten is a powerful moderating force on the directness and destructive potential of the meteor.
Well, I predict Trump will say something dumb and or cruel, which is business as usual. Or he might be super respectful, which would be a big surprise and would be news for that. I can see people speculating on Hillary and her condition which might be business as usual, or calls saying she should step down and is physically unfit for the job of being America's President, which would also be business as usual. Or maybe she'll decide to throw in the towel, which would be super crazy and who knows what road that would take us down?
If we're lucky, the news will acknowledge that skipping out on the 9/11 ceremony with anything short of projectile leprosy would be seen as an affront to the assorted people dragged out whenever you wish to assert an affront and that once she was there, leaving early would be an even greater affront etc. until you have a politician feeling so shitty that she's gotta bolt and lo and behold there she is, Weekend at Bernie's on cell footage.
If we're unlucky, the news will question whether or not Hilary Clinton has projectile leprosy.
Why do you think Trump will win? Were you thinking that prior to today?
I'm seeing more and more evidence of people that are seemingly rationale conservatives and independents saying they're going to vote for him. These are people in my family and former colleagues at work, so it's anectdotal. But I made this prediction prior to any GOP debates. He's such a good marketer. He understands the mob. We are living in idiocracy. The d-u-m-b people outnumber the rest. Getting them to the polls is the trick. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he offered to pick people up in limos that are pledged to vote for him....
I want to start this by saying that I am to the slight left of Sanders, and saw him and the conversation he started as a jumping off point for something more like the Social Democrats in Germany.
You want to know why people are going to vote Trump? They are angry, they are scared, and they have been ignored for a generation. The Democrats abandoned the middle of the nation in their minds and left them to the Republicans. They watch Fox News because crime is out of control (even if it is still the lowest its been in decades), the economy is shit, their jobs are being off-shored, and they are fed this constant stream of media shit. But the stream of media shit is like religion in that it tells them they suffer now for a good life down the line when they are all rich and healthy and life is sunshine and rainbows if only we had a true conservative prophet to lead us. but instead they saw Trump as someone the establishment hated and got him the nomination.
- He's such a good marketer. He understands the mob.
And the thing about mobs is that individuals turn off the logic part of their brains and go with the flow of the mayhem. I work with people who, although they don't quite use these words, want the whole thing to burn down so it can be rebuilt by the 'True Believers" and it just so happens they are the ones who can elect the right people.
- I'm seeing more and more evidence of people that are seemingly rationale conservatives and independents saying they're going to vote for him. These are people in my family and former colleagues at work, so it's anectdotal.
I'm starting to get scared that Hillary is going to lose. I'm having the same anecdotes. And the Hillary campaign is not doing anything that I can see that is reaching out to the people in the middle and telling them "We are a great country, we don't need to be made great again, we need to fix our shit and move forward." I think that this comes from having, for lack of a better way of saying it, "grandma and grandpa" running for President. Older people back, and we need people who can move us forward.
When one side has been claiming form the rooftops that Hillary isn't healthy, then she collapses out of nowhere during some event, that will put a lot of credibility on that side and weaken Hillary's position.
Regardless of if it matters for her ability to run as/become president of the US, that is a pretty important event in the political realm, at least to my knowledge. Then again, I don't really know much about politics, and for all the crap Trump has done to dig himself in to a hole this may not be enough to change any outcomes.
It's a bubble!
The secret service is the embodiment of procedure. There was a lot that "wasn't supposed to happen".
There is some real shit going down - don't look at what the media is covering, though, for any answers at all in line with the truth. Based on the Washongon Posts's spin, I would speculate she has the media feeling a bit "out of the loop." And, we all know, the mainstream media today is fighting for their lives to stay afloat of a manic social media reality... A self perpetuating bubble.
The truth is we all believe what we want. This is what's ringing true today, and the repercussions are starting to show..
I can most definately specfy them:
We're living through the longest, most developed, spending cycle in the history of mankind. And this game is nearing its end. The world consumption rate is a function of a system that has been manipulated so heavily by many political positions that the underlying assets have gone awry.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if that makes sense, I completely understand how one can see this observation. It has merit. Especially considering what I've been invited to study in the world...but I'm also realistically looking toward the future.
Everything happening right now with this presidential race is pivotal. I voice my opinion because history repeats itself, and social equality is not scalable.
All the good peole who are now codependent on an unsustainable system are effectively being writen into a servant class, where their role is gift wrapped and presented as a bright future of peace and acceptance. It's one step away from: 'without me, you are nothing.'Yeah, a conspiracy theorist is fairly accurate. Most of us need a position of power to give us meaning. If that power comes in running with what I talk, thumbs up. Remember "talk is cheap." I only speak on what I've experienced.
One could legitimately state, and universally argue to great advantage, that the world has never been so well connected, and thus the connectivity is not accurate to associate with a financial POV in a spending cycle, but the facts are real here:
our current way of life is not sustainable.
Enough secrets are being kept, and Hillary Clinton's health is one of them. Honestly, it may be better for people NOT to know how her personal health is. It may even be healthier for madam secretary to not have the manic engine that is today's state of media coverage to know what her personal health condition is in. But that is all outside speculation.
The facts are real: she is drawing attention, and so much so, enough people are questioning everything, that the underlying values go unnoticed, unannounced, and conclusions are made regardless..
Using more words does not make you less vauge when your words are still abstract in meaning.
Why is the world nearing it's end, how is the system manipulated, how are the underlying assets going awry. How are those things different today than they were five or ten or twenty or fifty years ago.
You mention dependence on the system, and that's the nature of society. This process of specialization started in the agricultural revolution, and is becoming more and more severe every year. Never has it resulted in a societal collapse, or indicated that we can't go back to having general skills. People adapt to the situation, they learn and change. Just because things are unsustainable as we do them now doesn't mean we will collapse in 50 years, it means we will probably change our stride in 25. The number one growing energy sources today are all renewable, for example.
- Most of us need a position of power to give us meaning. If that power comes in running with what I talk, thumbs up. Remember "talk is cheap." I only speak on what I've experienced.
You make fun of the fact I call you a conspiracy theorist, or even try to adopt that term as if it is a good thing. Years and years have proven differently, you should take this labels as a consideration in how you should modify the way you think. When people feel your thoughts are similar to conspiracy theories, you ask why, and you fix that. You don't wallow in the mud and say "i'm happy like this".
- Enough secrets are being kept, and Hillary Clinton's health is one of them.
Nobody is keeping this a secret, it's literally all over the internet.
thank you for the comment
- Why is the world nearing it's end, how is the system manipulated, how are the underlying assets going awry. How are those things different today than they were five or ten or twenty or fifty years ago.
I know I am on to something, but rather than changing the way I think, I must work harder to convey what I think. I am not prepared enough, but am working on it.
For now I'll accept the label, but not revel in it. What I can say is, I BELIEVE there is an enormous bubble right now -> centered in the financial sector of the global ecnomy. Drawing the parallels to this thread, the bubble manifests in the manic-media publications, and subsequent politicking.
I agree there is probably a bubble in the financial sector of the economy, that it will eventually pop and cause issues down the line. I'm not sure about how this bubble would manifest in media, and I do not think that the bubble will be catastrophic, even though it will be harmful.
- When one side has been claiming form the rooftops that Hillary isn't healthy, then she collapses out of nowhere during some event, that will put a lot of credibility on that side and weaken Hillary's position.
What came first, the accusation or the observation?
a storm is coming
Who knew that travelling across the country literally with no stops in-between, shaking/touching/hugging/etc. tons of people, a really fucked up sleep schedule, and being in a pant suit in 75 degree temperature with almost 50% humidity throughout the day would take a toll on someone's health? If she sneezes into the wrong camera, it must be ebola.
r/politics is sadly filled with college students who have taken a few politic science courses, and now believe themselves certified to comment on literally anything remotely political.
Good lord, I peeked over to /r/politics' front page and it's literally dozens of links pertaining to Hillary fainting.
I understand the explosion of interest. In the vacuum of attention, something like this is bound to get bandied about. Speaking 100% as a non-medical professional, and as a young man in the prime of his life who exercises and runs regularly, I've had light headed and near-fainting episodes just from squatting for a while and getting up quickly. If she has pneumonia and it's almost 90 degrees out, I wouldn't be surprised if she'd gotten faint.
That said, it's pretty remarkable that we're separated by naught but a heartbeat from a Trump presidency.
well it's a thing now because her doc says she has pneumonia. At her age, that is not a trivial matter. This isnt good for her campaign at all.
You're not lying. It's a massive effort on my part to not get distressed. Though if I think about it, it's not like anything has changed in regards to things I can influence to change the outcome of this election.
There were so many posts about this exact fucking thing that Subreddit Simulator had an 100% accurately titled post:
Fuuuuuck Reddit (opens up a tab to /r/relationships sorted by controversial yet again)
Conspiracy theories now circulating that she has Parkinsons. Given her history of dishonesty a lot of these fan theory's might get wings. I'm not sold but without good info and trustworthy sources fan theory become just as plausible the official explanation
She's fine, just needed a new battery pack or something