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kleinbl00  ·  1640 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Leftists Should Have No Problem Voting For Hillary Clinton

The article fuckin' links to Noam Fucking Chomsky.

Look. I know how hip it is to slag on Clinton. I know how butt-hurt everybody is about not getting their way. But can you just for a minute look at how fucking entitled this way of thinking is?

    If she can't stand on her own merits as a candidate, then she doesn't deserve my support.

Bitch, it's not about you. It's not about Clinton, it's not about "deserve" it's not about "support."

"Laws, like sausages, cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made."

- Otto Von Bismarck, the asshole that effectively made WWI possible

You know what this election is? This election is a whole bunch of pissed-off OWS don't tase me bro black lives matter slacktivists being enrolled in the process of donating money, going to caucuses and putting signs on their lawns for the first time ever. And for the first time ever, they're discovering that hope matters fuckall and at the end of the day, politics belongs to the ruthless sociopaths, same as it ever was forever and ever amen. Know who's a great man? Carter. Know who was a shitty president? Carter. Four years of solar panels on the White House roof and the destruction of our foreign intelligence apparatus such that we're still reeling from it because Idealism.

And look. I get it. I would have loved to have voted for Sanders. Dude speaks my language. Politics about 90% aligned with mine. But that dude would have looked like a Pound Puppy in a Blendtek video about two days after inauguration. So yes. Hate the fuck out of the system, be outraged, be indignant, stand on your principles and argue about who does or doesn't "deserve your support" but look me in the eyes:

The country is full of angry morons that think Elvis is alive, Eve came from Adam's rib and 70 years of globalization and regressive tax policies can be reversed 140 characters at a time. They're not voting their conscience, they're voting their rage and FUCK your guilt, FUCK your dudgeon, FUCK your principles, this isn't a goddamn game.

    “[Slitscan's audience] is best visualized as a vicious, lazy, profoundly ignorant, perpetually hungry organism craving the warm god-flesh of the anointed. Personally I like to imagine something the size of a baby hippo, the color of a week-old boiled potato, that lives by itself, in the dark, in a double-wide on the outskirts of Topeka. It's covered with eyes and it sweats constantly. The sweat runs into those eyes and makes them sting. It has no mouth, Laney, no genitals, and can only express its mute extremes of murderous rage and infantile desire by changing the channels on a universal remote. Or by voting in presidential elections.”

- William Gibson, Idoru

Let me reframe this for you: you're being flooded with articles asking you to be an adult rather than a child. And if that sounds scornful, congratulations. It is.

No thinking human being with access to the Internet should even be considering enabling Trump in any way, shape or form. Enough of them are that the rest of us need to get strident. The fact that I'm getting good at bitch slaps like this speaks to the entitled disaffection being practiced in these hallowed halls of the Internet but Sweet Holy Jesus it matters.





Kaius  ·  1628 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    - Otto Von Bismarck, the asshole that effectively made WWI possible

Whoa whoa whoa, before we go kicking Bizmarck around for setting up an intricate set of political alliances that eventually led to WW1, we should also acknowledge that Kaiser Wilhelm was a fuckwit who couldn't keep shit together. Its hardly Bismarcks fault that the royal family lost the genetic lottery and ended up with a ruler not fit to clean his boots...

kleinbl00  ·  1628 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We can acknowledge that the next time someone quotes the Kaiser. ;-)

Nice to see you again.

Kaius  ·  1617 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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dublinben  ·  1639 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I refuse to help perpetuate in any way the system that allows someone like Trump to have power over another person. Voting for anyone in this election grants legitimacy to the results, even if that means a President Trump.

>No thinking human being with access to the Internet should even be considering enabling Trump in any way, shape or form

I've said this before. Blame the Trump supporters. They're the ones who will put him in the White House, not Sanders supporters.

user-inactivated  ·  1639 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I refuse to help perpetuate in any way the system that allows someone like Trump to have power over another person

They're all like Trump, Trump is just not very good at it. You want to fight the good fight, join an activist group of whatever flavor appeals to you. Elections aren't revolutionary, they're about not getting worse and maybe, if you're lucky, pulling the Overton window a little further in your direction, and Sanders has done us all a disservice by leading people to believe a presidential election could ever be revolutionary.

b_b  ·  1639 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    ...Sanders has done us all a disservice by leading people to believe a presidential election could ever be revolutionary.

Obama already did that. Not sure where you live or what it was like there, but in 2008 I was living in the ghetto, and I never saw it happier ever. Bums were out on the street high five-ing, people were walking around smiling, and there was an electricity in the air that's hard to describe. It didn't last long, but I'll admit that I thought for a moment that the 08 election was going to be a new awakening. I didn't support Obama in the primary, but I was sure happy when he was elected.

user-inactivated  ·  1638 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And there was a lot of burnout once it was clear Obama wasn't going to deliver.

goobster  ·  1639 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Abdication of your responsibility as an American citizen to vote, is specifically empowering the shit that is going on in our society right now.

You think the majority of people in America voted for this, and want it this way?

No they didn't. Because less than 30% of Americans EVER vote.

So you wanna be all punk rock and individual and all "fuck the establishment"? Well then VOTE, moron. Otherwise you are just feeding yourself the Republican-funded pap that says "voting doesn't matter."

And being a tool and shill for the R talking points ain't punk rock at all.

kleinbl00  ·  1639 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I refuse to help perpetuate in any way the system that allows someone like Trump to have power over another person.

Then you refuse to sit it out, because inaction when your opponent is motivated and energized is accomplishing exactly that.

    Voting for anyone in this election grants legitimacy to the results, even if that means a President Trump.

That's a petulant bleat, not an argument. Make the argument.

    I've said this before. Blame the Trump supporters. They're the ones who will put him in the White House, not Sanders supporters.

Blame is not a binary condition, nor is it a limited commodity. They have more blame. That does not make you blameless.