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user-inactivated  ·  2931 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Deeply Moving Message from Bernie Sanders - YouTube

I still get so.. overwhelmed when I realize how hard obtaining medical treatment it can be for people in USA.

Let's say, here in NZ - I damage my knee playing Rugby. It's an accident, no previous history with knee injuries, and I've torn my meniscus. The government funded scheme would cover my Ultrasounds, eventual MRI, surgeon meetings, the surgery itself and all the Physio/rehab required until I am fully fit and back at work. The same scheme will also cover my wages/salary while I'm off work (at 80% of my normal pay). I mean, they'll even cover taxi rides to and from appointments if I live alone or am otherwise unable to get transport for myself.

My Dr visits at most cost me $30 (much less for students, children and the elderly), I dunno what the dental care funding is like there but mine was free until I turned 18 - prescriptions are no more than 5$ for 6 months of antidepressants, or things like Omeprazole. Shit if I needed ambulance transport in an emergency the most I would be charged for is bang on $88 dollars.

It's scary to think there are people out there who literally have to stay sick or injured so they can afford the rent, and food, and heating.





thenewgreen  ·  2931 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When this happened:

A few months later we were given a $500 bill for the ambulance ride. Luckily with some finagling and a consult with an attorney friend of ours, we were able to get it waived. But this is because we are educated and know attorneys that could help us craft the letter.

Imagine being poor and getting that bill. $500 is a lot of money to many people. The system sucks. It makes no sense.

user-inactivated  ·  2930 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fuuuuuck me that is nasty. You had to seek legal advice because your child arrived and an ambulance was required.

I'm sorry you had to deal with all of that. There are some issues within NZ, like any country, but these stories make me very thankful to be in a country that bends over backwards to make healthcare easier for it's people.

I just remembered something - that govt scheme I was talking about? That applies to people who aren't NZ citizens. If you're in NZ, on a working holiday VISA or similar and are earning/paying tax - you're eligible for cover. You can come here to travel, work in a fruit orchard for a bit of cash, get injured and we will patch you up and cover you until you're ready to go back to work/travel. It blow's tourists and immigrants minds alike and it's something I totally take for granted.

briandmyers  ·  2930 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just to be clear - this accidental-injury coverage (it's called ACC) applies to everyone in NZ - including tourists and illegal overstayers. Everyone.

user-inactivated  ·  2929 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, very true. Sorry I'm never sure how much detail to go into with it. I actually work for ACC so I quite often get focused on small things and forget to explain the bigger, main picture - and quite often do a terrible job of it

briandmyers  ·  2929 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No need to apologise! I became a big fan of ACC when my son broke his neck a few years back. They covered everything including 80% of his salary for the three months or so he was in a halo vest. Without that support, he would have been financially ruined; instead, he didn't even lose his job.

OftenBen  ·  2929 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's so great to hear. I used to work in insurance and sold policies that did essentially what you described.

Saved more than one family from a serious financial crisis.

steve  ·  2931 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dang dude... $500 for an ambulance is cheap! I know a guy who got three bills for one ride: $850 for the ambulance ride (less than 3 miles), $280 for the paramedics, and $125 for dispatch service or some such thing.

This is a guy in his 70s who is on medicare... it's insane.