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Kaius  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Google hires moot.

I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes prominent in some new social experimental app or maybe even hangouts. Google are likely using him as a traffic draw but its a real long shot as to whether his audience would use their platform...





kleinbl00  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would be, honestly. Moot successfully built a pirate kingdom with no accountability, no marketability, no remuneration and no commercial potential whose primary contributions to world culture are lolcats and serial shooters. Everything Moot has touched since 4chan has turned to shit.

I'm more willing to believe they hired him by mistake than that they're using him as a traffic draw.

user-inactivated  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He did 4chan and Canvas, and Canvas failed for the same reason OhInternet did; his existing users saw it as Disneyfied 4Chan, took it as an insult, and sabotaged it.

kleinbl00  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would argue that Canv.as failed because it didn't accomplish anything. I had a sign-up and messed around a little but remember exactly nothing compelling about the site whatsoever.

user-inactivated  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It wasn't attractive to me either, but then I didn't find 4chan interesting, so I just assumed I wasn't the audience. There were a lot of people spending a lot of time drawing genitals, swastikas and pedobears to undermine its attempt at being kinder, gentler 4chan though.

kleinbl00  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I never participated in /b/ but I watched it sometimes. It was like staring into the id. THAT is the fundamental issue with marketing to the /b/tards: 4chan is a digital toilet stall for graffiti, not a gallery for artwork or a bulletin board for community messages. It exists as a safe space for being vile and most advertisers want the vile stuff discouraged. This is the problem Chris Poole (and Alexis Ohanian, and Kevin Rose) face: it's easy to build a community when you're doing nothing to keep out the elements that advertisers and the greater media despise. As soon as you try to be a citizen, you discover the exact same problems that everyone else has been dealing with while you were off in the hinterlands.

Google has no hinterlands and never will. They often buy them and then sell them when it gets them in trouble.

user-inactivated  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think I like equating keeping out elements advertisers and the greater media despise with being a citizen. /b/ is vile, but not because it's not a good community to have brands associated with. I would not mourn 4chan's passing if it went away, but we could use more places that are indifferent to advertisers.

kleinbl00  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We could.

But we will not gain any in a system predicated on profit.