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mk  ·  3133 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why People Under 35 Are Unhappy

Discuss?

Are you? IMO you all should be angry, not so much unhappy. It mostly has to do with money that is being allocated against your interests. The actual possibilities for what can be are better than ever.





theadvancedapes  ·  3132 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would say I am unhappy and angry because of the above (i.e. inequality and exclusive hierarchy). When you try to make something of yourself under the naive assumption that you live in an inclusive society that rewards ambitious and initiative, and then discover that this is all a mirage... it can be disorienting and a long process to re-discover who you want to be as an adult, and how it is you want to engage with society. Most of the time I just want to hide in a forest and wait for the Singularity.

But yes, I am channeling my anger and unhappiness in a productive direction - or starting to. I want to identify the ways that we can actually break out of the contemporary order. I agree that the opportunity for real change is high, and another world is possible.

mk  ·  3131 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I empathize. IMO this is primarily due to a 'time of plenty' vs. 'time of scarcity' mindset. Currently, we are operating under a 'time of scarcity' mindset, but I would argue that it is an illusion. A large number of systems, institutions, and the cultures that are associated with them are sunsetting. The scarcity is relative.

IMHO the important thing is to move forward with optimism and an open mind. I think we feel similarly. We needn't frame a vision of success yet, atm we need to feed the good and help it grow.

theadvancedapes  ·  3129 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    feed the good and help it grow.

For today, Plato!

OftenBen  ·  3132 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Most of the time I just want to hide in a forest and wait for the Singularity.

This is a big part of my desire for a forest/mountain hideaway.

user-inactivated  ·  3129 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    IMO you all should be angry, not so much unhappy. It mostly has to do with money that is being allocated against your interests. The actual possibilities for what can be are better than ever.

Could you elaborate?

mk  ·  3129 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, I could say that here in the US we spend too much on prisons, and not enough on blah, blah, blah... but it's the general trend rather than the details that matter.

The current under 35 generation is feeling the pinch, and significant resources have not been mobilized to improve their situation. National economies do not function based upon a balance sheet but upon legislated initiative. The old guard is not motivated to work in the interests of the under 35 generation, and I would argue that they take cover under the narrative that the balance sheet does not allow for it. Both major parties are operating under this narrative, IMO.

Disenfranchisement has always been the state of the poor people in the US, but it now includes a good portion of the middle class as well. Organized labor used to be a primary means by which the middle class could exercise power, but technology and trade has eroded the leverage unions had.

user-inactivated  ·  3128 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah. So, economical reasons, in this case. Would you feel justified in saying that it all affects emotional and/or mental state of those under 35 in ways other than having worse/less jobs and somesuch?

mk  ·  3128 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would be very surprised if it didn't.