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b_b  ·  3201 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 15, 2015

    You know how many times we've had to fight users about the mute function? It's tiring. I understand not wanting to put up with another month of assholes coming in and ruining something you love. I understand having a socialist, feminist safe space cut out for you on the site, only to have it shit on by assholes who don't get it over and over and over as new people come in.

I was just remarking to mk that I think something like 99% of laws and rules are made to protect people from the 0.1% of people out there who are complete jerk offs. With regard to the internet, it's amazing how far one really committed troll can bring down a site.





Meriadoc  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And that's what it always is, unfortunately. Before it was mreiland, before that teamrajoncal or something like that. The names stick with you because it's always that one dedicated chucklefuck. It just feels worse this time because usually a flux is a month, a month and a half, and the person makes some grandstanding nuclear meltdown of a post and leaves. But with how it's been non-stop fluxes for two months now, it's terrible. It provides him with new venues every day, and it makes him the face of the site that everyone sees. It's extremely frustrating.

kleinbl00  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have been muting with abandon lately. I don't regret it in the slightest.

Meriadoc  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A month ago I had four users muted. Neither were on the site anymore anyway. Now I have ten, and that's with a significant amount of restraining myself from muting others. My hushed and filtered list is out of control.

kleinbl00  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

hidden posts: 0

hushed users: 58

muted users: 72

filtered users: 96

filtered tags: 5

filtered domains: 10

letthebodieshitthefloor letthebodieshitthefloor letthtebodieshitthefloor letthebodieshitthefloor

ButterflyEffect  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

hidden posts: 0

hushed users: 46

muted users: 30

filtered users: 149

filtered tags: 20

filtered domains: 1

I don't screw around with filtering users.

thundara  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm surprised anyone uses hush, for me if someone bugs me enough to merit visiting the moderation form, it's straight to filter / mute.

_refugee_  ·  3199 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hush is my first line of defense/first reaction. Hush is for when I feel you are a person behind your username, and I want to give you a chance, but damn do you piss me off. I usually hint at it when I've hushed someone because I tell them, "Hush, you."

I hush people when I still want to give them a chance.

kleinbl00  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hmm. Almost seems like "hidden posts" is an underutilized feature.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My thinking is:

Spammer? Filter.

Posts things I don't like? Filter.

Posts things I don't care about? Filter.

User I like who infrequently posts something I don't like/care about? Leave it, not that big of a bother.

Don't see much of a point in using the hidden post feature given how much control I already have over how my feed looks.

veen  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm almost the opposite. Hardly any mutes or filters except for a few #technology spammers. I think it might be because I hardly visit global...

hidden posts: 2

hushed users: 10

muted users: 6

filtered users: 12

filtered tags: 0

filtered domains: 2

kleinbl00  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Or you're substantially less combative than me. Keep in mind: Every chucklefuck flameout Meriadoc mentions hasn't been "fuck you Hubski" it's been "fuck you Hubski also kleinbl00 is your butt buddy and I hate him" or "fuck you kleinbl00 also hubski because you're kleinbl00's butt buddy.

I think Hubski attracts the thin-skinned, and a lot of them harbor an untested notion that they're cleverer than most. It's difficult to disavow them of this notion gently, and until they are disavowed of it much of their discussion is flavored with "you're wrong because I'm clever, mommy told me so." It stands to reason that I end up as Bubble Burster In Chief 'cuz if you don't have a thick skin you got no business moderating a default on Reddit.

Little-publicized fact: the FPH fiasco caused at least one moderator suicide. this stuff is realer than most people realize.

user-inactivated  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude, you are the king of "you're wrong because I'm clever."

_refugee_  ·  3199 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I find I only agree with him when I agree with him.

user-inactivated  ·  3199 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Your bio says you have an internet crush on him.

_refugee_  ·  3199 days ago  ·  link  ·  

These two statements are not mutually exclusive. Do you consider "internet crush" and "blind worship" synonyms? You are not the first person who has observed, and attempted to leverage, that flippant remark as if it denotes a deep, significant, connection - for some reason some small subset of people sees that "I have an internet crush on kleinbl00" and assumes not only that I am a slave to him in my devotion, but that I must be enlightened, freed from my crush. And that it is THEIR duty to disillusion me!

If you cannot disagree with someone you have a crush on you are in for a very hard time in life, relationships, and dating. If you cannot perceive flaws in those who you admire and enjoy, then you are either not very perceptive or willingly blind yourself to negatives. Neither of those traits describes me.

You know what having an internet crush on kleinbl00 means? It means that when we disagree (and we do disagree), I make a conscious decision as to whether I want to engage or not. It means I sit and consider, "Is this discussion worth it?" and sometimes I think, "Nope." It means that sometimes, when we disagree, I sit back, consider everything about myself klein doesn't know, ponder how he must have an equal or greater share of such items in his invetory, and I think, "He thinks he is right, I think I am right, it is not harming either of us to think that, and to prove would be exhausting. Let us both instead be happy, and continue to enjoy talking to each other."

Thank god I'm the only one claiming to have an internet crush in this discussion tho' cuz damn I don't want to know what the other side of it would or wouldn't look like.

If anything, I strive to simply accept the internet user for who and what he is.

It is impossible for two strong personalities not to clash heads sometimes.

If my bio said I was a pistol-totling pussy-whipping rattlesnake-eating half-Mexican half-Asian cowboy learning the tricks of the rope trade to train in the rodeo, would that somehow be relevant to this discussion of whether I "only agree with [a person] when I agree with them"? No. Would you believe it? Does it matter? Nope.

A person who cannot see, acknowledge, even appreciate the vast gulfs that exist between us all - the ones that get deeper and bigger and vastier as we get more emotionally close - a person who cannot accept fundamental differences, is a person who doesn't know what affection is. That is a person who thinks love is weak, simple-minded, dependent on another to be led, wholly reliant on its object in order to take shape.

I do not worship. I do not grovel. I do not, as they say, put the pussy on a pedestal.

I accept humanity.

tl,dr: i's a dik

arguewithatree  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

i'm singing britney spears after reading this so you can tell how my friday is going

_refugee_  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

yawn i'm tired and boy all yo uneed to do to get under my skin is imply i'm not independent and then tangents tangents tangents.

I was really hoping this was going to be "Not quite a girl, not yet a woman."

arguewithatree  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

user-inactivated  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow. It was a tiny joke. I don't care if you agree with kleinbl00 on issues or not. Like not even a little bit. And this isn't about you 'accepting users' or any larger philosophical comment. It was a little joke. It's not my duty to disillusion you. I don't even know you. But as this is the first time I can remember talking to you, I hope this isn't you putting your best foot forward to a stranger.

_refugee_  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I sure as shit ain't putting my best foot forward with you because we have interacted and I wasn't that impressed.

user-inactivated  ·  3198 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sorry you feel that way. I hope I can change your mind one day. Though I looked around at our comment history and there aren't many interactions worth mentioning, not because they were good or bad, but because they weren't much of anything memorable. I don't know what I said that got you so riled up, but if you ever want to fix it and move on I'm happy to be a part of that.

steve  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    the FPH fiasco caused at least one moderator suicide

ugh... that breaks my heart.

tla  ·  3200 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm somewhat relieved to hear that. I was feeling like an outlier for having a whopping 4 people muted, 2 of which were spammers.

Isherwood  ·  3199 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and how on that colony they didn't have any particular laws. If there was a problem, either man could accuse the other and find a third party to act as judge. After hearing the case, the judge would give a one time verdict.

I have to go back to the book to fill out the nuances, but it was an interesting idea that didn't rely on tomes of preexisting rules and let the community deal with problems as they arose.