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user-inactivated  ·  3231 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Take down the Confederate flag now

    Of course it's beyond naive to separate the flag's despicable racial past from it's use in modern times

That's true, but then there's a reason one of the classic history books on the South was titled the Burden of Southern History. The confederate flag is a very good symbol. Tell someone who flies it that it's irredeemable because it's tainted by racism and you might as well be telling them that they're irredeemable because they're tainted by racism. Which might be what people who want it removed mean to say, but all the same these arguments are never just about the flag itself on either side.





BrainBurner  ·  3231 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I see, so by telling them they can't fly the Confederate flag because it's tainted by racism, we're saying they're tainted by racism. Which I imagine they resent because they likely don't consider themselves racist, whether this is true or not.

I think this raises an interesting question: Can the Confederate flag be redeemed? Can it ever be considered primarily a symbol of Southern community pride, and not a racist rallying point? I have a feeling this question and it's answer lies with minority communities, and it's something I personally cannot comment on.

ArtemusBlank  ·  3231 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I really don't think the Confederate Flag can be redeemed, a lot of people will see it as a symbol of racism and but also as a symbol of a bloody civil war that killed many young men. This flag is seen by a good number of people as a symbol of traitors and history rarely treats traitors well. Is Benedict Arnold ever really treated well after all these years?

nothingleftinside  ·  3231 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Can the Nazi flag be redeemed?

BrainBurner  ·  3231 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's possible, but not likely. Certainly not in my lifetime, or my grandchildren's lifetime.

I guess the point I'm making is that many Southerners see the stars and bars purely as a symbol of Southern pride and culture, and not as a racist banner. I think in theory it could be viewed this way, but I imagine a large portion of the public, especially minorities, wouldn't buy into it, understandably so.