Talking of young'uns, as we were in another thread, I'd be interested in caelum19, swedishbadgergirl and any other < 20's views and habits. (Who'd I miss?)
The rest of you, sort yourself into decades.
I'm eleventybillion years old. I do the Twitter on occasion. Facebook's a place for promotion between peers; I dropped it this year anyway. Pinterest never held mine. Tumblr makes me want to punch. Instagram I have yet to plumb.
Whatsapp seems swiftly dismissed in the article but perhaps thats a US choice - it's well used in Europe.
I'm interested in the public sharing of the private and the differences, if any, between intergenerational attitudes to these boundaries.
This is fair-to-middlin' amazing. I find teenagers are virtually incapable of shutting up about social media. More than that, danah boyd's book, which was ballyhooed by pretty much every media outlet from Parade to The Economist, is nothing more than a longitudinal ethnographic study of teenagers talking about social media. This is also a semi-amazing statement. There's virtually no data or studies done on teens and social media. Most of the information is proprietary and created and curated by those websites that use it. When you're in the business of selling data, giving it away is crazy. Nobody does it. Sherry Turkle has been studying kids-with-computers since the Apple II and she's got plenty to say, but few journalists have the attention span to listen. And this is hilarious. I'd be seriously suspect of any teenager that describes Instagram as "hip" or "cool." And this is true for anyone from eight to eighty.I read technology articles quite often and see plenty of authors attempt to dissect or describe the teenage audience, especially in regards to social media. However, I have yet to see a teenager contribute their voice to this discussion.
This article will not use any studies, data, sources, etc. This is because you can easily get that from any other technology news website and analyze from there.
Instagram hasn't been flooded with the older generation yet (not everyone has an Instagram) meaning it’s “hip” and “cool” to the younger crowd.
To be honest, a lot of us simply do not understand the point of Twitter.
In all fairness, saying stupid shit is what Freshman year is about. When it comes to social media, however, the blogosphere is full of hand-wringing parents and coin-rubbing investors that know there's an outsized impact from something they have an undersized understanding of. So they flail around looking for "wisdom" and quickly discover there isn't any because Reddit doesn't want you to know most of their traffic comes from porn searches. Facebook doesn't want you to know that they're selling you to anyone who throws them a nickel for any reason. Snapchat doesn't want you to know that their business model involves getting bought by a greater fool and that the greater fool isn't interested in the app, he's interested in the users. So all of a sudden they're taking business advice from a guy who just found out what FICA is and parenting advice from a kid that just saw his first keg cup.
The way he sorta promotes Medium midway felt strange too. He doesn't just say "nobody uses Medium," he says, "Medium has a great interface, all that's left is for teens to use it." Just seemed out of place. I wouldn't call Medium a "social media" place. It's a place for pseudo-intellectual start-up garbage, though.
I understand the point of twitter a bit, it is place to write short funny observations and to read other peoples short funny observations. Like, one of my favorite people and a seriously amazing woman who is a household name in Sweden wrote this once. Paraphrasing, and translating so it sounds way worse when I say it BUT
"Studying for my hunting license is so boring that if I was allowed a gun I would shoot myself" Like that sounds very dark, and twitter is a place where you can write things like that without people thinking you are serious.
Yeah, people are awful. You have to be funny though if you're gonna be dark. And usually the only safe topic is yourself. Honestly I'm mostly on twitter because of that one woman's tweeting, and 'cause of other people like her. I feel like Sweden can be more forgiving when it comes to social media though, there is a young and funny and smart comedienne that accidentally recommended a neo-facist book because she hadn't gotten to the really messed up parts yet and the SVT (our BBC) defended her and keeps working with her Like, the woman I'm constantly paraphrasing is a social media genius. She is an ex-copywriter turned to working with food. She is quite dark but she also writes about really personal things and has basically said in an interview that the thing she is the most proud of is being able to lead a normal life. I try to stay away from most of twitter honestly. I try to just follow famous adults with self control that don't tweet a lot. Or adults with admitted self-control issues that tweet a lot. And I usually think before I tweet and such.
It is. My dad has something like 8 brothers and 7 sisters. They've had children and they're children have children, and then they all scattered across the world like dandelions. There is no universal messaging system that they can use that's like Whatsapp. People take their phone plans for granted. Whatsapp makes it easy for people to share stuff without fees everywhere from Sudan to Egypt to Kuwait to Dubai to Malaysia and back again. My mom loves Whatsapp. She gets to see pictures of her family from Sudan more often then ever before. She got an Arabic keyboard and can talk with them or send voice memos. It's actually improved her happiness and mood because she can do all that. The only downside I can think of about the app is that it's sort of turned into the new "forwards from grandma," in a way. I use Facebook for chatting and that's pretty much it. Oh, catching birthdays as well. Don't have Instagram because I'm not interesting. Used to be on Twitter but it feels hateful and counter-productive to conversation and critical thinking. Used to be on Tumblr but it hates longform content. Used to be on Medium but I like my blogposts being my own. Used Yik Yak for a week but it's just reposts from other places masquerading as unique content, and lots of "that happened" fake stories and bitching about homework or classes or "oh man I'm so lonely for real on the inside, no one will ever love me." I have never, in my life as a college student heard of GroupMe. I use snapchat more now. I get what it's supposed to be for. I can get behind its ethos. So truth be told, Hubski is my favorite "Social Media". Is Hubski social media, haha?Whatsapp seems swiftly dismissed in the article but perhaps thats a US choice
So you and galen are the only other people I've seen mention yikyak. The yak around me is sometimes funny, often reports, and surprisingly racist sometimes which I really don't like. I have confirmed through research that its most convenient use is to check if others around me have also lost power, to determine how widespread the problem is.
I use a lot of social media sporadically, e.g. when I'm bored as fuck and stuck in bed. I love tumblr in a way cause its a great way for young people to work out how to socially interact with each other in a very casual environment that moves fast and forgets fast. I use Facebook because it is a godsend if you want to manage political groups, closed as well as open and not always have only your name on it. Also, most of my teachers have a Teacher Facebook where you can reach them if you need help and were they post if they are going to be late or if they are not arriving.
I have an instagram but I don't like it that much and I just feel sad looking at all the needy 13 year old that just needs someone to give them a sweater. I use kik because it is like texting but so much easier. I think the key to social media is setting limits. E.g. muting someone. I use itslearning because I have to because it is for school. I mean, it is adorable seeing your Swedish teacher excitedly post videos about the authors you are reading. I don't use snapchat because of 1. the risk of dicpics 2. the risk of boobs. Like yes, people don't send me that shit, but thats partly cause I tell almost all my friends I hate snapchat and don't use it. I know a lot of my more casual friends drink and party, I don't want them to drunkenly send me naked pictures of themselves by accident.
Also I'm proof young people will not shut up about social media.
The Netherlands has the highest usage of Whatsapp per capita. Literally everyone with a smartphone has Whatsapp. I'm currently in 11 active group chats and it's my main method of communication: That's 5.6k sent messages and 46k received in just under a year. About 130 per day, and I'm not even above average among my peers. I don't text or call people. Sometimes I mail, sometimes I get a message on Facebook but that's about it, the rest is all Whatsapp.It is.
The Dutch are weird, though. I had this app for a while that was supposed to help people learn English. It would pair you with someone from somewhere else in the world and you'd go off on scavenger hunts. Like, you'd have to take a picture of a bus in your neighborhood, they'd have to take a picture of a bus in their neighborhood. 90% of the people on that app are Dutch.
25, twitter and snapchat. deleted my facebook years ago, I got nothing out of it. I don't care about most people and don't want them to bother me. the people I occasionally feel like bothering mostly don't care about me. so twitter fits that bill. snapchat covers the dozen or so mutuals. group texting doesn't count as social media. if that counts then so does irc
I think group texting is interesting to mention though, because I've heard so many people say thing like; "I used to be on social media but now I just group-text instead" It is the alternative, what people do instead.
You missed me ;) but I personally am not too into the social media scene
I use twitter to talk to strangers if anything to spread ideas
I used to use facebook a ton, but no one else uses it anymore
I tried using instagram, but all it is in reality is girls taking selfies of themselves (Not to mention Im too lazy to take a picture)
Pintrest and tumblr I've never used, and I haven't met a guy who has If anything, the social media I use the most are reddit and certain forum sites on a game which I'd rather not talk about If I need to connect with friends, I'll usually talk to them in person.
<20 here. I'll go down the list: Facebook is stupid. I have a profile because I've always had one, and it's occasionally useful for groups and events. But most of the time that's where my mom hangs out and the volume of posts is way too large to sift through. And all the notifications get annoying. I use Instagram more often than Facebook, still not that often. Mostly I follow musicians and funny people (also marniethedog because yes), and every once in a while I post weird pictures of myself or the stuff I'm doing. It's cool, I guess. I tweet more often than I read my Twitter feed. Same issue as Facebook: there's too much fucking content, and no good way to sort through. But like every couple days I'll read a couple tweets and chuckle at one, so I still have a profile. It's also useful for scratching the itch to say stupid shit to someone without annoying the heck out of my family/friends. I don't really understand Snapchat? I have one, but rarely use it, and mostly only to reply to people, because seriously what the hell kind of pictures am I supposed to send? It eludes me. I used to have a Tumblr. I downloaded Yik Yak about a week ago, it's pretty lame, mostly because of where I live. I use it pretty much as if it was anonymous, less interactive Twitter. I'm not going to participate in the author's weird Medium hype. So that's my view.
21, I use snapchat to communicate with friends quickly/ respond to them doing the same. I use Instagram to follow artists of all sorts and a few friends. I follow graffiti, glass, and just mixed media artists. Also, photographers, it's nice way to kill a few minutes without have to google anything specific really. I don't use anything else, haven't had a Facebook in 2 or 3 years because it seemed like a waste of time. I have a g+ though, wonder why.....
I'm 25, so not a teenager, but:
a) I'm feeling a bit younger than my age would tell,
b) I was a teenager only a while ago. Still I was not in any way the most representative example of my generation. Around 13 I started becoming a loner, more and more. I felt weird with people, especially socializing and spend most of my free time alone playing PC, watching movies and reading. Natural extension of that was that I have never got a Facebook account (to be honest I created it once, as my favorite Polish band was postponing the release of their record and Facebook was the only place where they shared some info about it), no Twitter, nor any other. Sometimes I got this surprised looks and questions "You don't have a Facebook?! Why??". I just replied that I don't feel a need to, which was true. I also didn't have any single photos of myself and I felt all those sites were mostly about sharing photos. As I wasn't socializing too much in the physical world, I didn't feel the social pressure too big - or maybe I just didn't give a fuck, as I always did about most people advising me how to live my life - it's always hard to tell the difference to me. When I grew up (which came a little late in my case) and saw how uninspiring and stagnant my life teenage has been, I decided to go out and meet people. I re-thought participating in some social media then, but turned it down. I think main reason was I saw people all around being almost addicted to it and I thought it's not worth my time. It seems it stayed this way to this day, as I still don't feel any need to create account on any of those popular sites and feel it'd be waste of time. That is one of the reasons I ended up here. I just looked for some more rational, less photo and rituals oriented place. To be honest I've never heard of the few sites you mentioned: YikYak, Medium, Whatsapp. It only shows I still haven't caught up with my generation : ).
I initially decided to avoid this as I don't particularly use any proper "social" media, but what the hell, everyone else is giving their two cents. Facebook: Never had one, never want to. Twitter: See Facebook. Tumblr: Nah. Pinterest: I don't make crafts, and I possess male genitalia. Yik Yak: Never heard of it. Whatsapp: I can see the point, but I don't use it. Instagram: See Whatsapp. The only major websites that I use seem to be all outside of social media. I use Reddit (boo! hiss!), 4chan, 8chan, Krautchan (deep breath), the Paradox Plaza forums, Civfanatics, and, ynno, here. If I was a printer, I'd be running out of ink. I like forums better than I do social stuff, I guess. I don't much like the term "social media." It makes it seem like other forms of media aren't social enough. I'm thinking of making a cooking blog, but I dunno how I would go about it. Anyone else here have a blog?
Would you mind explaining the bolded quote? Maybe it's because I have a Pinterest and possess male genitalia that is causing me to be confused. My inference from the quote is that there is something inherently emasculating about being a male with a Pinterest. Perhaps it's due to thinking that something predominately feminine leads to that. Which I disagree with. Or I could be missing your point entirely.Pinterest: I don't make crafts, and I possess male genitalia.
On pintrest; I had a very tech savvy teacher whom I am impressed didn't murder all the boys when they assumed that her husband owned the computers in the relationship. She listened to Nirvana a lot and it was always funny when the teenage boys thought she was intruding even though she had been a teenager when Nirvana was big and if anything had a bigger "right" to like nirvana. I think I accidentally found her pintrest once. She had pinned a lot of awesome and funny things and I left the fuck out of there cause she had used her maiden name (that she tried VERY hard to never say in class) and everything to make sure stupid teenager didn't find it and I was not going to ruin that for her. Anyway, pintrest is awesome for teachers since teenagers and especially boys are like "NOPE ONLY MIDDLE AGED LADIES ON THERE NOTHING TO SEE" I mean, it was so "funny" to see the teenage boys be all "Yeah, we're so smart she doesn't know what were saying about her" and me be like "She did half her teachers education in English an also knows Greek. She does know, and it is hurtful and you are DICKS"
Fellow pinterest-using dude. It's fantastic for making inspiration boards when you're working on something creative. Like when I was designing my sister's wedding invites, I made a board called "wedding invites" and pinned a whole bunch of shit I thought was cool until I had a clearer idea of what look I was after. I have that extension that lets me pin stuff from all around the web when I'm browsing, it's awesome to have an ever-expanding catalogue of creative/inspirational bookmarks.
Also a user. And its funny because guys don't realize that pinterest is THE secret weapon for people who don't know or refuse to tell you what to get them for their birthday/a holiday. I've gotten so many "this is exactly what I wanted, how did you know!?"s just by hitting up people's "wishlist" boards, or their equivalent.
Haha, that is perfect. I think I'm going to get a pintrest now, it sounds like a nice social media network.
Pinterest is 72% female: or around the same percentage that Reddit is male. In addition, I've found that there is a wide perception of Pinterest as a female website, as much sense as that makes. You're taking things for what I've written that I don't mean.
I'm not disagreeing with you with the percentages, however, what I read is this: App: Reason you don't use the app. Sure, you don't make crafts, that's fine. Many people aren't into crafts. However, seeing the second clause and specification that it's a female website makes it come across as if you don't use Pinterest because you're a male, and that's a site for females. That in turn comes across as sexist. That might not have been your intent and I'm not saying "wtf u sexist i hate u" but it's worth considering what could and could not be viewed as offensive in the realm of sexism (well, and everything else).
I, too, have a Pinterest account yet I, too, feel that it often offers my life about as much marginal utility as an eyebrow pencil. Just like Reddit doesn't have to be about strawman feminist memes and how much your parents oppress you by making you go to church that one time, Pinterest doesn't have to be about pinata cookies and melted crayon collages. But it is.
And CRAYON LIPSTICK. Like my lips can be any colour as soon as I get around to actually make it. And eyebrow pencils are the shit. Like, my hair is very pale so my eyebrows are invisible and they do so much for a face. Erhm... I think I'm starting to see your point.
Pinterest is the ultimate "wow that looks great but let's be honest: I won't be making it anytime soon" site. I mostly use it to look at nice things and think about aesthetic for when I eventually have nice things. That link is amazing, by the way.
Okay, since I'm from Sweden I think everyone should have made a gingerbread house during their childhood. We would make them in kindergarten every year when I was a kid. In the area where I live there is a big competition around a theme where people build amazing things.
80 percent, in fact. 92% of pins are made by women.
I'm thinking of making a cooking blog, but I dunno how I would go about it. Anyone else here have a blog?
-see #grubski and please do join in. As for bloggers, there are a number of them in our fold. You can often check someone's profile and you'll see a link to their blog. What I've found is that it's a tough thing for people to keep going.
Dude, you should totally make dinner for your family. That would be bizarre in the best way.
I did that once, made a wok with sauces and bread and everything. They were very happy and surprised.
So, you're thinking of making a cooking blog but you don't cook?
Don't be rude. Alfredo is what I've cooked the most, so (like I said) I know it by heart. If I make something I haven't made a lot, I could fuck it up. I'm not gonna cook something that I don't have down if I'm cooking for anyone other than me. I know how to cook other things, just not as well.
I feel like whoever cooks dinner for your family on the reg also has the capacity to fuck it up. Just because they have more practice does not mean they are infallible, and the only way to gain practice is by doing. I don't think your family would mind terribly if you made something that wasn't perfect. Do the cooks in your family only cook things they have cooked many times before? I'm sure they try new recipes from time to time. One time my brother made pancakes for dinner with the wrong leavening and they tasted like pretzels. Gamely, my dad ate two of them. Also - isn't it incredibly presumptuous and rude to tell someone not to be rude? In this same thread someone reads into your comment and sees something you didn't intend and you tell them to "interpret your comment however they will." Well, you just interpreted tng's comment however you wanted to. Looks like...oh...that's right...we're all not perfect. Let's try to be consistent, at least, in our approach.You're taking things for what I've written that I don't mean.
Believe what you will about what that was supposed to mean.
If I feel like I'm gonna get really mad, I thank people. Sometimes it is an actual thank-you, though. I'm shit at expressing what I mean, and I don't write very well. I'm assuming that was some kind of insult, but we all know what happens when you assume. I'm not a coward.
No rudeness intended, humor DEFINITELY intended. So, you are thinking of starting a breakfast and lunch cooking blog then? If so, I think that's great. In fact, I would suggest that the more niche or granular you could get in a subject as vast as "cooking," the better.
Sorry. I'm prickly about statements like that. Yeah, a breakfast and lunch sort of thing would be more my idea. Not sure on how to narrow it down from there. I'm thinking a sauce blog would be kind of funny. Just different kinds of sauces and shit you can put them on. Easy, too.