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bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is an animal’s marked intelligence really reason enough not to eat it?

    Can you clarify on how BDSM is not "hurting someone"?

A couple that does BDSM are not going to be negatively effected in their lives. Heck, they may be positively effected from their kinky sexy times.

    It is undeniable that these practices cause pain

Pain is a feeling, being hurt is more than pain.

    because after all a cutter for instance is cutting him or herself with consent, but we do not allow that in society regardless.

A cutter risks killing themselves. It also not really looked well upon based on the whole fact that "cutting" is a very bad way of dealing with negative emotions. Cutting is a sign that something is fucked up and needs fixed. There is a reason it's teens with little emotional control that do "cut".





_refugee_  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    A cutter risks killing themselves....There is a reason it's teens with little emotional control that do "cut".

Neither of these are accurate statements though. It's common for instance in adult sufferers of bipolar disease. In addition, cutting isn't done with suicide in mind and it doesn't even have to occur on the wrists - thighs, stomach, etc - and with no potential to kill.

bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Neither of these are accurate statements though.

I'm sorry?

    It's common for instance in adult sufferers of bipolar disease.

How does that contradict " little emotional control "?

    In addition, cutting isn't done with suicide in mind and it doesn't even have to occur on the wrists

It most often does, however. Secondly, there remains risk of infection or death with cutting. BDSM rarely gets to that point AFAIK(which is very little admittedly). You don't have to have suicide in mind to nick an artery, and it's really easy to do when cutting yourself regularly with a knife.

_refugee_  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It negates "teens."

I don't think you know enough about BDSM in order to be accurate in your statements. I'm familiar enough with it to know that plenty of it involves breaking the skin, risking as much infection / if not more (another partner = foreign bodily fluids, spit semen whatever, that are full of foreign bacteria).

bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I'm familiar enough with it to know that plenty of it involves breaking the skin, risking as much infection / if not more (another partner = foreign bodily fluids, spit semen whatever, that are full of foreign bacteria).

It's still minor in comparison to cutting.

_refugee_  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How? A secondary partner ensures that blades are cleaned between use? That scissors are disinfected? Lashings from a whip are a-ok as long as someone else administers them?

bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How? In cutting you are directly cutting yourself, multiple times with a knife blade. You can very easily hit an artery while doing so.

A whip, however, is not likely to do so, and will probably leave no more than surface scratches.

Secondly, cutting still hints at underlying issues that need to be solved. BDSM does not.

_refugee_  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope. You're making a ton of assumptions here.

bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because I'm sure that those who cut are happy, healthy, human beings.

_refugee_  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And I'm equally sure that that can be said of all or even most individuals who practice bdsm

bioemerl  ·  3462 days ago  ·  link  ·  

BDSM is something that is present in a random set of the population, you can't really pin it on a personality or state of mind.

Cutting, however, represents a not-so-stable emotional state.