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comment by rob05c
rob05c  ·  3490 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is an animal’s marked intelligence really reason enough not to eat it?

    Can you state a positive thing that comes from animal abuse?

The lack of a positive doesn't make something morally wrong.

    -You can't trust a society that will off you if you ever end up disabled

The "trust" thing is a rather weak argument. I think society would continue to function if disabled people were "euthanized." Societies in the past have. Besides, what if it's a genetic disability that I'll never get? Then I don't have to worry.

    A society works best when all it's members are in a healthy mental, emotional, and physical state.

Um, that sounds like a Utilitarian argument that we should kill permanently disabled people to me.

    How do you think killing the disabled effects their mothers, their families?

How do you think eating animals makes vegans feel?

Sorry, my arguments are somewhat aggressive. I should clarify: I'm not attacking you. I'm certainly not defending animal abuse or forced euthanasia. I'm not even defending vegetarianism. I think there are plenty of good arguments against it…I just don't buy your ethical system.





bioemerl  ·  3490 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The lack of a positive doesn't make something morally wrong.

The lack of a positive along with the existence of negatives does, however.

    The "trust" thing is a rather weak argument. I think society would continue to function if disabled people were "euthanized."

It would also continue to function if we killed and ate half of the babies that were born.

I'd rather have a better society than a functional one.

    Besides, what if it's a genetic disability that I'll never get?

Saying "lets kill everyone with a disability because they aren't productive" does not only specify genetic disabilities. Saying "lets try to cut out genetic disabilities" cannot be done without also cutting down diversity and hurting humanity more than you help it.

    How do you think eating animals makes vegans feel?

Unless the vegan knows the animals in question personally, I honestly don't care. The question of "I think this is immoral" is different than the question of "you killed my pet". It is not traumatizing for vegans to know that other people eat meat. It is traumatizing to have your kid killed for the better good.